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.327 federal mag
« on: December 21, 2012, 06:57:50 PM »
Has anyone done a stub or liner barrel in this caliber on a handi? I'm thinkin this would be cool like the .357 max. it could shoot .32 S&W , .32S&W long, .32 H&R Mag, and .327 Federal Mag. Nice straight wall pistol case, easy to reload. Data and bullet choices seem a little limited. but the fed case loaded with the 123 grain sks bullet would be fun.  How about it? anyone try this? If i get this done and don't like it i think i could still re-chamber to .32-20.

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Re: .327 federal mag
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2012, 07:26:39 PM »
I've done a few stubs in it, works just fine, British .303 barrels are easy to find and shoot cast bullets really well.  Larry
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Re: .327 federal mag
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2012, 03:10:58 AM »
I just love my 32-20 Trotter Special!!  I even shot a deer with mine this year!

I have NO DOUBT the 327 wouldn't be just as much fun... Maybe even a bit more as you point out, a bunch of other bullets can safely be fired!

I say, go DO IT!!

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Re: .327 federal mag
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2012, 06:10:54 AM »
If they had made a 327, I would not be working on a 300 AAC, and the 32/20 would have been my first choice. They are great little guns and once one gets their head around the idea that the amount and diameter  of lead going out the barrel is only meaningful if the target requires it. Otherwise it is just a waste, like going to the buffet when you are only going to eat a salad. ;)
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Re: .327 federal mag
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2012, 09:48:09 AM »
If they had made a 327, I would not be working on a 300 AAC, and the 32/20 would have been my first choice. They are great little guns and once one gets their head around the idea that the amount and diameter  of lead going out the barrel is only meaningful if the target requires it. Otherwise it is just a waste, like going to the buffet when you are only going to eat a salad. ;)

Personally I don't "feel it"for the ACC, but can see the need for the 32's and can see the advantage the tougher case might be in the 327 over the thin necked 32-20...

I have a blast with my 32-20's its a caliber I don't think ill ever be without. I can shoot 125's at over 2K and 80's at 2600 and then back it down to my own 115g cast at about 800fps... Shoots clean 32 cal holes thru squirrels with zero blood shot meat and man o man do it knock 'em outta trees with authority.  ::) BUT one need to be sure the bullets going into the tree and not the next county...

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Re: .327 federal mag
« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2012, 03:59:42 AM »
The 327 will do everything and more than the sightly troublesome 32-20 case will and you can use a carbide die too! If fact, the factory 32H&R Mag loads are (were?) hotter than the factory downloaded 32-20s some years back so the 327 is even more potent, or can be loaded to any lesser level you fancy. Having the choice of the shorter cartridges may be a bonus, but once you have the 327 brass just load everything in those anyway; just try the others to find out how well they work.
If I wanted that class of cartridge the 327 would be a good one. Im surprised that H&R doesnt make it. HEY BRIAN...........
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Re: .327 federal mag
« Reply #6 on: December 25, 2012, 01:35:11 PM »
Anyone have a good guess as to the muzzle velocity of the 327 with a 115 gr bullet out of a 22"  barrel?   G66
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Re: .327 federal mag
« Reply #7 on: December 25, 2012, 03:52:50 PM »
Anyone have a good guess as to the muzzle velocity of the 327 with a 115 gr bullet out of a 22"  barrel?   G66

 
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« Reply #8 on: December 25, 2012, 04:33:37 PM »
Best guess would be 2100 fps,  +-.
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Re: .327 federal mag
« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2012, 01:48:06 AM »
This  thread has sparked my interest in the 327 due to my frustrations in loading the 32/20 WCF. The question was a general one as the loading data I've seen is all for handguns. Thanks, G66
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Re: .327 federal mag
« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2012, 02:41:35 AM »
This  thread has sparked my interest in the 327 due to my frustrations in loading the 32/20 WCF. The question was a general one as the loading data I've seen is all for handguns. Thanks, G66
What's the problems? Maybe I can offer some assistance?

While the 32/20 is def not progressive press friendly. If time is taken single stage loading while a bit more tedious is fruitful. ;)

Where someone starting out looking for this performance level the 327 would offer a more attractive package, if nostalgia was left out of the picture. ;) performance speaking ill bet they are equals.

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Re: .327 federal mag
« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2012, 03:17:07 AM »
The 32/20 and 44/40 WCF have always been trying for me to load. I use Hornady seater dies and lee FC dies and still get more runout and somewhat less accuracy than in straight wall cases.Loading productivity is much less too.
This is why I am considering the 327 Fed. Anyone know where brass can be found? It seems as if  all loading components have dissappeared  since the school shootings. Yes my heart goes out to the victims and their families.
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Re: .327 federal mag
« Reply #12 on: December 26, 2012, 04:36:47 AM »
The speed and ease of using carbide dies and no lube application/cleaning off issues, as well as the less fragile case necks all add up to a more user friendly cartridge, nostalgia aside. Handloaded the 32Mag and 32-20 were about equal, IIRC from Skeeter Skelton's experiments way back, so the 327 should be even better, and when it first came out I thought it should make a dandy, no brainer, Handi-Rifle chambering. If no guns are chambered for it, it WILL die.
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Re: .327 federal mag
« Reply #13 on: December 26, 2012, 07:34:47 AM »
One of them in a superlight barrel would be the one to get my wallet out of mothballs again.  T'would be sweet!  DP
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Re: .327 federal mag
« Reply #14 on: December 27, 2012, 12:23:20 PM »
i have a barrel to use as a liner. just need to get a .410 barrel and find someone to do the machine work. or better yet teach me to do it. I would love to learn how to use a lathe and mill. worked as a mechanic all my life but never machine shop. the chamber reamer is available and guys on here have suggested a .204 ruger extractor. any other things i should look out for?

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Re: .327 federal mag
« Reply #15 on: December 29, 2012, 05:37:28 AM »
A local farm/garden store just had a 25% across the board 2 day ammo sale. Of all things they had a pretty good stock of .327 Magnum. Needless to say, Santa came a few days early to my house. One of my favorite guns is the Marlin 1894 Classic in 32-20. I remember a few years back Cabelas had a couple of used/like new Marlin levers in the 32 H and R Mag with the tubular magazine in the $350.00  /- price range. Wish I could have a do-over on that deal! I think a .327 Handi would have all the attributes of a 32-20 with the added bonus of thicker brass.

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Re: .327 federal mag
« Reply #16 on: December 29, 2012, 05:58:09 AM »
Its not so much thicker brass, just that the 32-20 is a little bottleneck round so you cant use carbide dies, which is SOOO much nicer and faster (at least for me). Ive crunched a few 32-20 necks (and 22Hornet too) by getting sloppy when resizing; I found it better to feel the case lead into the die and go a little slower. Clean brass and carbide dies for me is magic! The next best thing for my 32-20s was using the Lee Collet Die. My cast reloads werent expanding brass so much that they needed FLS, but the necks needed a smidge to hold the cast bullet. The Lee gave me that and reloads were a snap. I was shooting old S&W and Colt's revolvers and one WInchester LowWall in 32-20 so I had to make due; given building a new barrel Id go 327 in a heartbeat.
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Re: .327 federal mag
« Reply #17 on: December 29, 2012, 06:04:56 AM »
One of them in a superlight barrel would be the one to get my wallet out of mothballs again.  T'would be sweet!  DP

I second that thought! However, even the 22 Hornet is too long to rechamber and rebore. It would have to be full custom.


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Re: .327 federal mag
« Reply #18 on: December 29, 2012, 07:15:14 PM »
i have the front half of a russian mosin nagant barrel someone cut off for some unknown reason. i am going to get a .410 barrel and use the russian as a sleeve. trimmed to 16 inches should make a nice .327