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Elizabeth Warren, Harvard Law Prof: No Licence To Practice!
« on: September 24, 2012, 06:26:15 AM »
Elizabeth Warren, the Harvard Law Prof who is running for the US Senate from Mass. and who was paid $218,000 from Travelers Insurance Company for legal advice, APPEARS TO BE PRACTICING LAW WITHOUT A LICENSE.  SHE IS NOT CURRENTLY A MEMBER OF THE MASSACHUSETTS STATE BAR OR ANY OTHER STATE BAR.

WHY ISN' T  THIS WOMAN IN JAIL FOR PRACTICING LAW WITHOUT A LICENSE?  (Because she's a liberal democrat, that's why.)

Performing legal services for which she is not licensed is theft and fraud.  Will she be sued for a refund of the $218,000? 

This is unbelievable.   Absolutely unbelievable.  Which group wants to regulate everything and everybody?  LIBERALS!  Who are the most contemptuous of the regulations they impose on other people?  LIBERALS!

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/09/24/Does-Elizabeth-Warren-Have-a-Law-License-Problem


UPDATE:  Warren admits on radio she has no license to practice law!   She took $218,000 for giving legal services in asbestos litigation.  Why isn't she in jail???  :-\

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/09/24/Elizabeth-Warren-Admits-She-Is-Not-Licensed-to-Practice-Law-in-Massachusetts

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/09/elizabeth_warren_not_licensed_to_practice_law_in_massachusetts.html

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Re: Elizabeth Warren, Harvard Law Prof: No Licence To Practice!
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2012, 06:56:49 AM »
I can give legal advice to anyone and if they pay me for it that is fine IMO.
What I can't do is call myself a licensed to practice lawyer, represent a client in front of a court or sign documents that require me to have legal standing and be admitted to a Bar. IMO anyway.
 
 Same as medical or financial  advise.
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Re: Elizabeth Warren, Harvard Law Prof: No Licence To Practice!
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2012, 08:10:30 AM »
Maybe Native Americans are exempt from the white man's laws,especially if you are friends with Big Chief in Washington.

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Re: Elizabeth Warren, Harvard Law Prof: No Licence To Practice!
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2012, 09:02:03 AM »
I can give legal advice to anyone and if they pay me for it that is fine IMO.
What I can't do is call myself a licensed to practice lawyer, represent a client in front of a court or sign documents that require me to have legal standing and be admitted to a Bar. IMO anyway.
 
 Same as medical or financial  advise.

You don't know what you're talking about. 

Giving legal advice for money is practicing law.  Warren collected $218,000.00 from a client.

Warren held herself out as a lawyer, licensed to practice.  Now she admits she was not licensed at the time she performed the "services."   Her name appeared  as co-counsel on documents filed by a bona fide law firm with the US Supreme Court.  The law firm  and the client probably didn't know she was not licensed but she certainly knew it.     Warren perpetrated a fraud on the client, who was deceived into paying her $218,000.00, a fraud on the law firm with which was associated and on the Supreme Court  to which these false representations were made.   

Practicing law without a license under Mass state law is just one of the violations.  She committed grand theft from the client and made false statements to the Supreme Court.  She can be sued by the client for restitution of the money she fraudulently obtained, but this is unlikely because Travelers Insurance does not want to antagonize a Democratic administration in Washington. 

 This is a woman whose political program is to regulate everything and everybody....except herself.

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Re: Elizabeth Warren, Harvard Law Prof: No Licence To Practice!
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2012, 10:15:32 AM »
Follow UP


http://legalinsurrection.com/2012/09/elizabeth-warrens-law-license-problem/


http://legalinsurrection.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Travelers-v-Bailey-Brief-Cover.jpg

AS you can see on this cover of a brief filed with the US Supreme Court, Warren held out herself as a lawyer with her office as Harvard Law School.     

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Re: Elizabeth Warren, Harvard Law Prof: No Licence To Practice!
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2012, 10:26:52 AM »
Nothing will come of this, Holder got away with murder, a little grand theft, lieing, falsifying records, means nothing, that is the lefts M.O.

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Re: Elizabeth Warren, Harvard Law Prof: No Licence To Practice!
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2012, 10:45:05 AM »
Giving advice isn't praticing law , we can all give advice which is opinion in her case in a field she teaches in. I would suggest every day she teaches she is giving advice on law. And she is surely paid to do so. I have been in several legal hearing where non lawyers gave advice to an indivisual but could not speak to the hearing board as they had been warned that it would be considered praticing law with out a lic. to do so. One can be paid for advice be it good or bad .
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Re: Elizabeth Warren, Harvard Law Prof: No Licence To Practice!
« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2012, 10:45:45 AM »
You don't have to look very hard to see what Elizabeth Warren is about. She has the same Marxist ideas that Obama has.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fROraaFDEQ
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Re: Elizabeth Warren, Harvard Law Prof: No Licence To Practice!
« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2012, 10:48:16 AM »
You don't have to look very hard to see what Elizabeth Warren is about. She has the same Marxist ideas that Obama has.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fROraaFDEQ

seems not having a law lic. is common to both also .
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Re: Elizabeth Warren, Harvard Law Prof: No Licence To Practice!
« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2012, 03:39:26 PM »
No license necessary. You or anyone you designate can represent you in court.
If you give up, THEY don't have to win.

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Re: Elizabeth Warren, Harvard Law Prof: No Licence To Practice!
« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2012, 04:10:08 PM »
No license necessary. You or anyone you designate can represent you in court.

I hope you know more about gun safety than about practicing law. 

You simply don't know what your talking about.  A person can represent himself/herself in court, but a corporation requires a licensed attorney and so does any other party in every jurisdiction in the US.

If "anyone" could represent you in court, there would be no need for  anyone to have a license.  Warren represented herself as a lawyer, collected more than $200,000 in fees from corporations and  filed pleadings with the Federal courts identifying herself as a lawyer.   She will not be held accountable because she's a Democrat in Massachusetts, a state that returned Teddy Kennedy to the Senate after he committed vehicular manslaughter and killed a woman.   

Maybe you've been doing too much shooting without your hearing protectors.

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Re: Elizabeth Warren, Harvard Law Prof: No Licence To Practice!
« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2012, 04:35:26 PM »
Follow UP


http://legalinsurrection.com/2012/09/elizabeth-warrens-law-license-problem/


http://legalinsurrection.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Travelers-v-Bailey-Brief-Cover.jpg

AS you can see on this cover of a brief filed with the US Supreme Court, Warren held out herself as a lawyer with her office as Harvard Law School.   

"Warren held out herself as a Lawyer"   Yea, she said she was Cherokee as well.
This blonde fake Cherokee is a joke, but sadly so is Scott Brown.
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Re: Elizabeth Warren, Harvard Law Prof: No Licence To Practice!
« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2012, 02:00:46 AM »
No license necessary. You or anyone you designate can represent you in court.

I hope you know more about gun safety than about practicing law. 

You simply don't know what your talking about.  A person can represent himself/herself in court, but a corporation requires a licensed attorney and so does any other party in every jurisdiction in the US.

If "anyone" could represent you in court, there would be no need for  anyone to have a license.  Warren represented herself as a lawyer, collected more than $200,000 in fees from corporations and  filed pleadings with the Federal courts identifying herself as a lawyer.   She will not be held accountable because she's a Democrat in Massachusetts, a state that returned Teddy Kennedy to the Senate after he committed vehicular manslaughter and killed a woman.   

Maybe you've been doing too much shooting without your hearing protectors.

A person can do it. Corporations are people. (What are unions?)
If you give up, THEY don't have to win.

"'Cause what they do in Washington, they just take care of number 1. And number 1 ain't you. $__t, you ain't even number 2!" Frank Zappa

The greatest idea the right ever had is personal responsibility; the greatest idea the left ever had is social responsibility. Both take effort.

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Re: Elizabeth Warren, Harvard Law Prof: No Licence To Practice!
« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2012, 02:48:57 AM »
No license necessary. You or anyone you designate can represent you in court.
Not true in Va.
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Re: Elizabeth Warren, Harvard Law Prof: No Licence To Practice!
« Reply #14 on: September 25, 2012, 03:03:49 AM »
No license necessary. You or anyone you designate can represent you in court.
Not true in Va.
not true anywhere.   And to pro hoc you must have a locally admitted lawyer oversee you. 

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Re: Elizabeth Warren, Harvard Law Prof: No Licence To Practice!
« Reply #15 on: September 25, 2012, 03:15:42 AM »
I would ask why take a want to be  at best into a court room where the out come could change your life ?
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Re: Elizabeth Warren, Harvard Law Prof: No Licence To Practice!
« Reply #16 on: September 25, 2012, 03:19:12 AM »
she also operated out side of a court room it seems
 
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Re: Elizabeth Warren, Harvard Law Prof: No Licence To Practice!
« Reply #17 on: September 25, 2012, 03:29:27 AM »
a private party can accompany you to court and relate the things that the court requires about you, but can no-way argue law.
I did not have a lawyer for my disability hearing. my wife had the disability questionaire and all the doctors statements which answered each question.  if she had tried to give a legal opinion, the judge would have said, don't let the door hit you in the butt!!

it's the lawyers that usually end up making our laws.  they are not going to cut their own throat by allowing just anybody to give legal advice or argue cases in court.

does anybody have that old saying about having a fool for a client??
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Re: Elizabeth Warren, Harvard Law Prof: No Licence To Practice!
« Reply #18 on: September 25, 2012, 05:46:58 AM »
You two are confusing a variety of slightly different issues.  Disability cases are brought before an Administrative Judge in an Administrative court.  They are not the same as a district court in their rules of decorum or evidence.  Without being offensive to those who work there, most lawyers do not consider them to be "real" courts.  They are DRAMATICALLY different than a Federal District Court.
 
Additionally, there are a variety of roles non-lawyers can play in any case.  What they cannot do is be the attorney of record for one of the parties.  Ms Warren may well have Pro-Hoced or used an education exception, but non lawyers generally CANNOT prosecute or defend federal or state cases on behalf of a third party.
 
Bugeye is right, the rules are written by lawyers and former lawyers.
 
History has taught me that Pro-Se litigants (those non-lawyers representing themselves) are often TFHers or other semi-crazies (or complete-crazies) that spend too much time on the internet.  They often do things like sue the judge who evicted them citing 5 or more Amendments and then demanding billions in damages.  If you want a good look at the rabbit hole these guys have jumped into, spend some time on the internet reading about the guys who argue that the Federal Income Tax is unconstitutional. 

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Re: Elizabeth Warren, Harvard Law Prof: No Licence To Practice!
« Reply #19 on: September 25, 2012, 07:28:20 AM »
1) If she indeed did practice law without being admitted to that bar, and there is no available exception, she is almost certainly violating a rule of ethics.  She may also have criminal exposure, I don't know.  It would depend on the law where this took place, as well as exactly what her role was.
 
2) My analysis has nothing to do with Scott Brown, although there are several posts in this thread that I suspect did.  Some would rather be faithful to their team than they would be right.  I'm just telling you what the rules on practicing law are. 
 
3) I couldn't care less.  Unauthorized practice of law is a complicated area with some respects but ultimately my job is to offer my knowledge in the proportion to which my benefit to the client is the same as their pay to me.  If someone else can do it better, more power to them.  I'm not afraid to sink or swim on my own abilities, and I would encourage others to do the same. 
 
Once again I will say, from my own first hand experience, most non-lawyers who think they know the law are nutjobs who clog up the system with their pseduo-knowledge and internet-plagerized pleadings.  They seem to be disproportionately TFHers.  The ones who aren't, good for them.  It's a free country.