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question on two calibers
« on: August 15, 2012, 04:32:51 PM »
I just got bit by the TC bug
I picked up a sweet deal on one with 3- 14" barrels and 23 inch rifle barrel
l in 7x30 water
17 remington super 14
7tcu super 14
223 super 14
what is some good things on all 4?
I do reload and I cast my own gas checks and all

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Re: question on two calibers
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2012, 06:15:59 PM »
I just got my second 7-30, wonderful round, easy to load for and shoot. Have a 7 TCU Super 14, another easy to shoot and load cartridge. Both the 7's are known for accuracy and an abundance of load data for both. Recently let a Super 14 .223 go, accuracy rivaled most bolt rifles I have owned and with my handloads, out shot me on any given day. All three of those cartridges are great and have,a strong following on their own.

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Re: question on two calibers
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2012, 06:22:58 PM »
does any one load for the 17 remington?
wondering what to expect

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Re: question on two calibers
« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2012, 04:49:29 AM »
good to hear the answers
kind of leary at first now glad to have all the calibers in question

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Re: question on two calibers
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2012, 06:57:39 AM »
All four are very serviceable cartridges that have a strong following, are easy to load for, all perform very well in short tubes or long.    None of them will disappoint you.   No idea what your uses are, but these will cover a lot of bases for you, and overlap to some degree.
 
On TC Contender's I've had all of them in 14" tubes, the 7TC/U and 223Rem also in 10", the 17Rem in 21" carbine, custom 20" in 17Rem and 223Rem; custom Remy XP-100's for the 17Rem and 223Rem; several bolt rifles for the 17Rem and 223Rem, single-shot rifles for the 17Rem and 223Rem, one auto rifle in 223Rem - maybe more I'm forgetting right now.   Probably had a 21" 223Rem as well.
 
Obviously I was a very serious predator and varmint hunter from all the 17 & 223 Rem's I've owned (and many dozens of others owned for hunting them from 17 cal up, a truck load of wildcats, etc).   My all time favorite of the two Remy's for predators is the 17Rem and 17 wildcats that ballistically match or surpass it, IMO the cartridge all others are compared against for predator hunting.   The 7TC/U's were for IHMSA, the 7X30 another for predators.   I used a different class of Contender cartridges for handgun big game hunting (and on other platforms), but the 7X30 could have filled some of that use as well, just never used it for BG hunting.   The 7 TC/U and 223Rem can also cover deer hunting in some places, but not where I hunted them.
 
Some call the 17Rem finicky to load for, but it never was for me.  I always worked up and dedicated all my reloads to specific firearms/barrels.   Of these two the 17 Remy and it's wildcat ballistic counterparts replaced my use of the 223 Rem's for all uses.  Like with most, with the 17Rem itself I played around with a lot of bullet, powder, primer and seating choices, but always settled on the 25's and a couple of powders as being optimal for my uses for that cartridge.   KISS works well in the 17Rem, you don't have to get fancy with it.   And with brass readily available you don't have to have the $600  in special form dies/case tools anymore I started with decades ago (still have them though).
 
You have a lot of fun and enjoyment ahead of you with these, and will soon enough will know what your favorites are for your uses, and fill in the gaps with others.
 
 
 
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Re: question on two calibers
« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2012, 09:02:18 AM »
looking forward "playing with my toys"
any hints of good stuff for the 17 rem, in a 14" tc?
all are 14" except the 7x30 which is a rifle barrel

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Re: question on two calibers
« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2012, 02:04:05 PM »
Those that know me here also know I do not pass on load data for safety reasons.
 
Will say as above my favorite bullet's for the 17Rem were 25gr, and a lot of powders work well with that weight class in them.   Which one depends on how fast you want to drive them.  The brass is strong enough to push them fast to get the laser flat trajectory they are known for.  Good place to start, in no particular order... IMR4320, IMR4198, BL-C2, H4895, RL15, V135.   Lots of others commonly used that I did try but didn't particularly care for.  Others just did better for me.   Your barrel will like what it likes, you just have to find it.
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Re: question on two calibers
« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2012, 12:48:28 PM »
The only problem I ever had loading my 17 was with primers.  I was using Remington small rifle primers and getting a lot of pierced primers.  Had to switch to using the bench rest primers and that solved my problem, Dale
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Re: question on two calibers
« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2012, 04:10:24 PM »

mostly varmint and other critters that are not needed
hopefully with the 7tcu or 7x30 I can pick off a deer or two
and some hogs in the area, have some heavy 7mm;s to load in the waters
I have from 139 to 162 bullets
the 17 I have 15 through 30 grain
the 223 will be a varmint round also


All four are very serviceable cartridges that have a strong following, are easy to load for, all perform very well in short tubes or long.    None of them will disappoint you.   No idea what your uses are, but these will cover a lot of bases for you, and overlap to some degree.
 
On TC Contender's I've had all of them in 14" tubes, the 7TC/U and 223Rem also in 10", the 17Rem in 21" carbine, custom 20" in 17Rem and 223Rem; custom Remy XP-100's for the 17Rem and 223Rem; several bolt rifles for the 17Rem and 223Rem, single-shot rifles for the 17Rem and 223Rem, one auto rifle in 223Rem - maybe more I'm forgetting right now.   Probably had a 21" 223Rem as well.
 
Obviously I was a very serious predator and varmint hunter from all the 17 & 223 Rem's I've owned (and many dozens of others owned for hunting them from 17 cal up, a truck load of wildcats, etc).   My all time favorite of the two Remy's for predators is the 17Rem and 17 wildcats that ballistically match or surpass it, IMO the cartridge all others are compared against for predator hunting.   The 7TC/U's were for IHMSA, the 7X30 another for predators.   I used a different class of Contender cartridges for handgun big game hunting (and on other platforms), but the 7X30 could have filled some of that use as well, just never used it for BG hunting.   The 7 TC/U and 223Rem can also cover deer hunting in some places, but not where I hunted them.
 
Some call the 17Rem finicky to load for, but it never was for me.  I always worked up and dedicated all my reloads to specific firearms/barrels.   Of these two the 17 Remy and it's wildcat ballistic counterparts replaced my use of the 223 Rem's for all uses.  Like with most, with the 17Rem itself I played around with a lot of bullet, powder, primer and seating choices, but always settled on the 25's and a couple of powders as being optimal for my uses for that cartridge.   KISS works well in the 17Rem, you don't have to get fancy with it.   And with brass readily available you don't have to have the $600  in special form dies/case tools anymore I started with decades ago (still have them though).
 
You have a lot of fun and enjoyment ahead of you with these, and will soon enough will know what your favorites are for your uses, and fill in the gaps with others.