Why Not a REM 7600 in the .350 Remington Mag?

[Siskiyou]

I have alway been fascinated by the .350 Rem. and the .35 Whelen.  Years ago I tried to buy a friend's .350 Rem. closet gun but he would not sell it.  I suspect it has seen forty rounds fired from it in 40 years.

With Remington trying to promote the .350 Rem. again why have they not brought it out in the M7600.  I realize that sales of the .35 Whelen were not enough to maintain it as a standard chambering, why not try the .350 in the M7600.  Is there an engineering problem that cannot be over come.  I rather doubt that the presure level is a problem.  The .270 has been a standard round in the M760 and M7600 since the 50's.  

I do not have any experience with the Whelen, but all the reloading manuals make an issue of the shallow shoulder on the Whelen.  Is that a real problem.  The design of the .350 case should over come the shallow shoulder problem of the Whelen case and it has a little more powder capacity.

I recall an old cowboy who hunted deer with a M141 Remington Pump in .35 Remington.  As a kid I was impressed with bore size and the bucks he collected.  Now most people will say that the .35 is an Eastern round, but the old cowboy collected his deer in Idaho, Washington, and California.  I suspect the old cowboy could not read and did not realize his .35 was not for Western Mule deer and jack rabbits.  

 Siskyou

[OLEVERN]

I'll buy one!!

[Daveinthebush]

The Whelen in the 7600 has been around since 87 or 88.  There is no problem with the shoulder as I have loaded it since 88 and am still using most of the original brass that I bought with the gun.

There is little difference between the two until you get an action that allows you to increase the ovl of the .350.  Then, it may jump ahead a little but I don't feel the difference is enough that an animal would complain when shot but one or the other.

Remington made a recent run of the 7600 in .35 Whelen and you can still find some out there and on Auctionarms, Gunbroker or Guns America.

[old06]

The 350 rem mag will not function through a 7600 action to round and that belt .   :shock:  I have had a 35 whelen in the 7600 since 88 great round in the right platform enought said :-D

[Qtip]

On the Rem. website if you click on firearms without using the drop down menu you will come to a page that will show 2004 sneak preview. Click on and you will see special runs of some of their new guns incuding 7600's. After Jan 1st the site will be updated.
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[Siskiyou]

I checked the Remington site and it is nice to see that they are making a special run in 2004 of the 35 Whelen and .35 Remington.

I still see a niche for the .350 Remington in the M7600.  As many of you know the M760/M7600 have been built in calibers with a .378 rim (.222 Rem and the .223 Rem.) and the more common .473 rim that is found on the .243, 6mm Rem, .300 Sav., .308, 257 Roberts, .270 Win, .280 Rem. 30-06 and the 35 Whelen.  The .35 Rem has a .460 rim.

On the other side of the fence the Browning Pump Rifle is also chambered for the .300 Winchester Mag.  The common magnum rim size is .532

It so happens that the .350 Remington mag shares the .532 rim size with the 6.5 Rem. Mag, the 300 Rem SA Ultra Mag, and the 7mm Rem SA Ultra Mag.  Remington has shown that it can produce workable models in a wide range of calibers.  The next step could be the M7600 Magnum Series designed for the .532 rim size rounds.  

I suspect a M7600 Magnum would have a larger ejection port, a 3-round magzine, and a 22 or 24-inch barrel in the .300 Rem SA Ultra Mag, and the 7mm Rem SA Ultra Mag.  Remember the old M141 pump came with a 24 inch barrel.

I believe that a M7600 Magnum Series could pump life into the .350 Remington Magnum.  As hunters gain the ability to hunt moose, and elk East of the Big Muddy they are going to be looking for more punch in their traditional pump rifle.  They will want a rifle that will take their deer, elk, and moose.  Elk are doing better in many areas in the West then deer.  Now Remington has sold a lot of M760/M7600's in the West over the years, I suspect that a Magnum Series would find buyers in the West.  I should note that the common black bear is becoming more numerous in recent years.  They also are becoming larger, a number of States have reported black bears in the 500-600 pound class.  Remember when that was referred to as a small grizzly?

Siskiyou

[targshooter]

Siskiyou,
You have given this idea of chambering the Remington 7600 for the .350 Rem Magnum quite some thought. Why not write to Remington and present your argument for the .350 Remington chambering?

[Siskiyou]

I will follow-up with Remington.  Need a real nasty day I cannot go out.  I have been cutting, splitting, and hualing oak.  Next years wood.  But I sure sleep good at night

Siskiyou