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300 whisper
« on: December 28, 2010, 03:16:45 PM »
Seeing how the shooting world is still new to me when I read about the 300 whisper it caught my interest.   I tend to like things that are different and I guess that is why I was drawn to the handi.   Has anyone ever chambered a handi for this round?   What would someone have to to rechamber to have one?
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Re: 300 whisper
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2010, 04:41:40 PM »
There's no way to get there without a rebore or stub in an H&R, H&R .30 cal chamberings are all bigger.

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Re: 300 whisper
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2010, 05:18:43 PM »
If you like the 300 whisper  ----   and willing to pay for a stub ...... you pay to name it whisper  - they (SSK) worked up all the details  -- and it isn't free..............................................................................
 
SO  look at -300 AAC  blackout'   -- it is somthing the Military is looking at and No royalies    just a hair shorter......

http://300aacblackout.com/

http://www.pacifictoolandgauge.com/specials.htm

I think Hornady makes the die...someone  carries them
                   Just a thought       Dan
    PS     A  300 BLK upper for a AR is $640
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Re: 300 whisper
« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2010, 05:24:47 PM »
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Re: 300 whisper
« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2010, 05:55:58 PM »
I am about to begin experimenting with a 30-30 handi loaded subsonic with heavy projectiles.  A .30 PMW (poor mans whisper) as another member coined it.
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Re: 300 whisper
« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2010, 05:57:43 PM »
I think  SSK make very fine gun parts   ----  And I which they thought handi rifles where OK    they could probably make the best barrels............I'd love to order a very good handi barrel from SSK
 So    PLEASE  SSK  us handi shooters want you to make Handi Barrels     ---thoughs TC  guys can't have  all the fun
 Im'  not that handi  Smart    ----But in my mind the    AR 15 wildcats Are in the Handi work load range...



I like the 7mm 223  and    6.5 - 223 look also   --- think they are called 7TCU...

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Re: 300 whisper
« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2010, 07:13:33 PM »
Quote from: original on December 28, 2010, 03:16:45 PM
Seeing how the shooting world is still new to me when I read about the 300 whisper it caught my interest.   I tend to like things that are different and I guess that is why I was drawn to the handi.   Has anyone ever chambered a handi for this round?   What would someone have to to rechamber to have one?

This is a specific, niche subsonic chambering designed to work with a suppressor, otherwise it's kinda pointless by itself.

Check out the nighthogs youtube page for a good, Non-Hollywood look at silencers.
http://www.youtube.com/user/NightHogsDotcom
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Re: 300 whisper
« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2010, 11:34:39 PM »
    To bad some of the other barrel makers don't get into the Handi barrels. I am thinking MGM. I think that is there name now.
    Seems like it use to be Virgin Valley. :-\. 
    I have had three V V barrels for my Contender. They were all great shooters but the 300/221 was the best.  I sold all my hand guns and switched to Handis. Now we need more barrel makers for them. See what you can do for us Quick. ;D   
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Re: 300 whisper
« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2010, 12:18:31 AM »
I too seem to gravitate to "different" or not popular chamberings. I can offer nothing on the .300whisper project. But in the same realm...

I think it was Paco Kelly who wrote a good story a few years ago about very heavy for caliber bullets in small cases for lite sub-sub sonic loads. Many calibers would or could lend them selves to this.
 In my case my little Trotter specail 32/20 would mahe an excellent candidate as it's made from a .303Brit barrel and 150, & 180 bullets in jacketed and up to 220 in lead are readily avalible.

Research that story over on leverguns. At the very least it's a good read. Knoledge is power! ;)

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Re: 300 whisper
« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2010, 04:10:06 AM »
It is not a Whisper but I have been working on some thing like it. 7.62 Zommie is what I call my stubbed handi. It is a 303 brit. barrel stubbed to a handi ,it is chambered with a homemade and designed wildcat reamer (7.62 Russian) case, blown out and improved. I still need to put an extractor in the stud. I have fire formed some cases and it looks like it will work out fine. I have been working on this for a while ,maybe I should get it finished soon . 26-t
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Re: 300 whisper
« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2010, 05:41:33 AM »
A 30-30 with Trailboss would likely give you what you want.  Hodgdon has listed a 997 fps load for a 160 grain cast bullet...
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Re: 300 whisper
« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2010, 05:55:43 AM »
Back in the '70's(?) there was an article in Gun Digest about the .30 Apache that sounded pretty nice to me, but I never looked into it. Nothing more than a .223 case necked up to take std .308 bullets; a Handi .223 barrel could be rebored and neck reamed/throated maybe less expensively that the stub job?

CW, that 32-20 of your is right up my alley of thinking. Ive been advocating faster twists for classic calibers for years, and sold original twist 32-20 and 25-20 rifles because I could not shoot longer heavies. My custom stub 25-35 does light to heavy .25cal. bullets very well, and so should yours in .30ish.

26t, IM LIKIN' THAT!
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Re: 300 whisper
« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2010, 06:24:08 AM »
I had a whisper.  I hadit redone to 30-30AI.

Whisper is under charged to get any velocity from a 150 gr bullet.

AI shot great after rechamber.  I would skip it, unless you like to have a novel round to talk about.

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Re: 300 whisper
« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2010, 06:38:10 AM »


    Years ago it was quite common to pull bullets from the .30-40 and load them in a .30-30. The goal was increased accuracy, but you also got better penetration as well.
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Re: 300 whisper
« Reply #14 on: December 29, 2010, 08:24:12 AM »
I've loaded 150gr and 180gr bullets in my 32-20 handi and they shoot good. they're really quiet too.



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Re: 300 whisper
« Reply #15 on: December 29, 2010, 08:49:41 AM »
What have you got for a twist in that, Spanky?
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Re: 300 whisper
« Reply #16 on: December 29, 2010, 10:35:10 AM »
Quote from: gcrank1 on December 29, 2010, 08:49:41 AM
What have you got for a twist in that, Spanky?

It's the same as CW's. I think Larry said they're 1 in 10 twist.



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« Reply #17 on: December 29, 2010, 02:26:54 PM »
And it caused a great deal of pain, so I quit doing it, BUT, what I had in mind was a 7.62X39 using 170 gr. bullets for the .303 Brit.  Never went past the "ouch, that hurt" stage.
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Re: 300 whisper
« Reply #18 on: December 29, 2010, 11:21:04 PM »
Quote from: Rustyinfla on December 29, 2010, 06:38:10 AM


    Years ago it was quite common to pull bullets from the .30-40 and load them in a .30-30. The goal was increased accuracy, but you also got better penetration as well.

A favorite was Winchesters 190 Grain Silver tip round nose loaded in the 303 Savage round. Some folks pulled it and loaded it in many "brush" 30 cals. That bullet was only offered in the 303 Savage round.

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