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Offline fishdaddy

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« on: December 15, 2010, 09:43:04 AM »
our river is froze over its the first time ive seen it froze over like this in over 30 years..a few more days like this i'll be able to walk across it.i seen where beaver and otter have been crosing it

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Re: ice
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2010, 09:59:19 AM »
fishdaddy
All I can say about the ice deal. Is if your not a regular at traveling on the ice be careful. Only takes one boo-boo and it's a dang cold swim and can be impossible to get out un assisted.  I haven't fallen through accidently myself in many years now. As a former Ice Rescue instructor I never realized before I was schooled some of the chances I took. Now that I'm schooled so to speak, some people think things I do on the ice are crazy. That many be true? but my eyes are wide open crazy. I don't wander around on the ice willy nilly till I've check all conditions and know what I'm on.

Just be safe man!

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Re: ice
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2010, 11:06:18 AM »
its not a big river the place i looked at today is around 3 foot deep..if i try it ill be careful i have a rope that will reach across it ill tie it to a tree and me too..thanks

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Re: ice
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2010, 04:09:56 AM »
Fish,
 
  You may want to pull your gear behind you in one of those plastic sleds. The less weight under your feet lessens the chances of going through the ice. The water may only be 3 foot deep, but once you're wet, that hypothermia can set in fast and thats somthing that you never want to experience!
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Re: ice
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2010, 06:14:05 AM »
 Iv'e spent quite a bit of time on the ice--and I still don't like it ,or trust it. I have seen beaver and rat runs--free of ice in below zero weather. I have broken through, more times than I care to count. I wear waders when trapping ice bound rats ,not only for when I go through,but they also keep me dry,when I lay on the ice to place some of my rat traps.
 Worst sound when out on the ice(other than craaaaaaaaaaaaacccccccccccckkkkkkkk)--the sound of running water.
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Re: ice
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2010, 07:03:24 AM »
Down States ice is scarey, as a kid in the sandhills had a damed brook, that stock pond had perch & bass and bluegill and most years was very thin and also deep, use a Toke (Eskimo) use these, basicly a long chisel tipped staff, they test as they go across unknown ice, "like solders useing a bayonet searching for landmines"
I live in the Arctic, people use the rivers and slew's as major transportation routs after iceup.
This fall a guy fella died by Kiana AK when his Honda ATV went through green river ice along the bank, current drew him under divers found his body 2 weeks latter, sometimes they never find them on rivers as the current is strong and holes deep.

As a Highschooler My brother & I used to trap along the river bottom, for beaver and bobcat and coon, one day while snowmobiling along stopping to check traps we flushed a coyote out the ceadar's and it ran out onto the river ice, on impulse my brother goosed the throttle and we were soon on river ice after said coyote, the ice was slippery(no snow cover) we didnt have tracion studs so we dident gain on coyote's head start, he headed out on the river a couple hundred yards ahead of us tawrds a small willow choked island out mid river also wasnt ice ther, we turned back and continued checking traps, next day the same place we were snowmobiling on river ice was gone, cut away over night by river current.
Dont assume the ice is thick and if you venture out take a TOKE, Ive seen toke made of lodge pole spruce up to 8feet long had a chisel edge made from a old wonder bar nail bar, had a reverse hook like a gaff to handy in snagging deep stuff under water..... and string up your sleeves some ice picks (broom handle with 1" spikes) to get grip on ice so your not pulled under.
Arctic Armor clothing is also boyant.....keep in mind.
I'd strongly suggest checking out www.iceshanty.com   forums, mainly Thin Ice forums.
Allot of equipment Ice fishing is also used by trappers

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Re: ice
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2010, 07:12:22 AM »
tested it out today not safe at all

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Re: ice
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2010, 07:43:48 AM »
 Fish, I am not one bit surprised.
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Re: ice
« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2010, 11:22:24 AM »
i have been under the ice in a river talk about hurt the river was only about 2-3 foot deep but the current just sucked me under. the water feels like second to therd degree burns all over. the knot on my head did not hurt for about 2 days as my body was in shock(the knot come from breaking the ice to get out) it took about a week for me to get warm again. two days in the hospital hypothermia sucks. to this day i dont even go ice fishing anymore.what ever you do
DO NOT TRUST ICE ON ANY WATER THAT HAS CURRENT the ice can change very fast 3" one day, open water the next
and temps around 0. becarefull if you choose to go on it. i will never do it again!!!!!!!
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 when or if you get out the cloths you have on will freeze solid in just a short time very short time.
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