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Rosssi Puma firing pin
« on: August 01, 2010, 10:35:12 AM »
Anyone having as much luck as me with firing pins in these rifles, mines the .38/.357 model and I enjoy the heck out of shooting it, when it's working, my Son has the same rifle and the same problems, we're both having our 4th firing pin installed in the darn things, they just either break or work intermitently when they don''t fire, we don't dry fire and any round we use can safely be fired in either one of our security sixes, their becoming a total PITA, and I'm about ready to consider making a wall hanger out of it and getting one of those little rolling block Uberties, we usually just shoot the Rossis single shot anyways.............steg

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Re: Rosssi Puma firing pin
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2010, 01:14:03 PM »
You might want to have a chat with the Rossi/Taurus Service people - I've put North of 2500 rounds through my .357/38 over the last 18 mos w/o any issues, except that I think my grin's been permanently fixed in place.

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Re: Rosssi Puma firing pin
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2010, 02:00:23 PM »
any round we use can safely be fired in either one of our security sixes

Are you shooting max loaded reloads in cases that have been fired more than a coupla times? I have been told to use only new or once fired brass in my levers for max loaded ammo because of the way the bolt locks up. Was told continued use of old brass loaded to max is hard on the actions........but don't know if this relates to your problem or not. I have never before heard of anyone having that many firing pins go out on their Rossi levers. I have shot close to 5000 rounds outta mine and I still have the original firing pin. While this happening in one gun might show a problem with a particular gun, consistently having it happen in two different guns seems odd.
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Re: Rosssi Puma firing pin
« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2010, 02:45:58 PM »
I've been reloading 38/357 magnum since 1970 of about every load level and have never heard such a comment, and I load the brass till it splits, and always have. I have a Navy Arms "Deluxe Model 92 Lever" I bought about 6 years ago. It now looks almost as old as my 53 year old Model 94 Winchester 3030, it has been carried so much. I had three Remington case head failures from a short batch of brass I acquired and that's it. I suspect you have some other problem such as a rough firing pin channel which is not letting your firing pin retract while cambering another round, and the case head is breaking it as it snag the firing pin which is not supposed to be protruding. I would box it up and send it to the factory. These as a general rule are great little rifles
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Re: Rosssi Puma firing pin
« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2010, 05:25:40 PM »
The first broken pins the rifles were sent back to the factory, it took 4 months to get them back, neither rifle's firing pin lasted through 1 box of ammo in that case they were mild .38 specials, the other two firing pins for each rifle were made by a local gunsmith, and he is very good at what he does, the last two have lasted around 5 boxes apiece, and the one that is in the rifle will fire a round once in a while at best, I really like the rifle so does my Son, but it's frustrating at best..........................steg

BTW the first pins broke after one shot in my rifle, and two shots in my Son's............steg

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Re: Rosssi Puma firing pin
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2010, 01:43:15 AM »
Having done all that it would seem the company would replace the rifles. My solution was my best guess, and not having the rifles in hand, it is all one can do. It is it seems rare for such a problem in two rifles own by one family, and at the same time. Frustrating would be an understatement.
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Re: Rosssi Puma firing pin
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2010, 09:08:19 AM »
I've been reloading 38/357 magnum since 1970 of about every load level and have never heard such a comment, and I load the brass till it splits, and always have.


I was told this by a avid reloader and friend who also has been loading for and competing with levers for many years. There is also a warning to the same effect in the latest Speer reloading manual in the .357 for rifles section. No offense meant, but I tend to believe what's written in published manuals. While I too load pistol/revolver brass till it splits, I only shoot full power loads in my levers that uses new or once fired brass. Again....... I didn't know if this was the OP's case, but was grasping at straws cause I had never heard of repeated failures of the Rossi firing pins before. With Steg's reply that the pins were broken using mild ammo and only after a few rounds makes me wonder where the problem lies.


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Re: Rosssi Puma firing pin
« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2010, 07:48:09 PM »
I admit that I load the brass til it splits, but I can't be the only one doing it, plus I don't see how that should affect anything in the chamber area that would hurt it. I would really hate to have to settle for a replacement rifle, had this one re-blued and the receiver color case hardened, had to do the re-blue, one day while giving it a polish on the blue with some oiled 0000 steel wool the bluing started coming off, the guy that I took it to said he's never seen bluing that did that, trouble is I still like the darn thing...steg

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Re: Rosssi Puma firing pin
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2010, 02:43:38 AM »
It won't effect anything in the chamber area steg. Reloading manual differ from one issue to the next even in the same companies. I have two Lymans, and depending on calibers one is hoter than the other on max loads, and it's the same with other manuals. Lymans hotter on some cartridges, and less so on others than some other brand manuals. I think there something going on inside your bolt firing pin channel thats causing that.
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Re: Rosssi Puma firing pin
« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2010, 11:25:45 AM »
Both channels were way oversize, .087 and .089 but the last two firing pins were made up with this in mind, that should have corrected the problem, I didn't take it apart, and these eyes don't work so good anymore, but my Son just told me that the firing pin seems to be mushrooming some, I understood that they were made out of drill rod, but he may have omitted the heat treating step thinking the drill rod would be tough enough in it's self, that may be the reason that it fires sometime and sometimes not, the Smith is on vacation now when he gets back I'll let ya know how it works out...steg