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Offline DEACONLLB

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old style stainless question
« on: February 03, 2010, 04:51:04 AM »
Was talking to a fellow yesterday and he was saying that TC never made an old style stainless that what was being called stainless was armor alloy coating but I do see frames that state they are stainless on gun auction sites so what is the truth othe matter?
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Re: old style stainless question
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2010, 05:14:45 AM »
I don't know how OLD you're talking about but I bought a stainless T/C frame in the early 90's, maybe even 1989.  It is truly stainless steel.  A few years ago I bought a stainless steel barrel on an auction site and it didn't fit my stainless frame.  I called Thompson Center about it and they had me check numbers and markings on the lug and as it turned out, it was an old Armour Alloy barrel.  The appearance of it was VERY different from my stainless frame....had a nice luster and slightly brighter color to it.  In any case, in order to get the barrel to fit my stainless frame, I had to send it to T/C and have them fix a few things (larger diameter lug hole and possibly something with the locking system) all at no charge.   When I got the barrel back, they even gave me a new hinge pin with it (no charge!).  The barrel fit, locked up, and shot well, however, I was advised by T/C gunsmiths and other gunsmiths NOT to load the barrel with high pressure ammo.  (The barrel was a 45 Colt and I load some hot loads in that caliber).  I think the T/C people just said not to for liability reasons but the gunsmith that I know warned that it was NOT a true stainless steel barrel and he didn't know exactly how it was made, nor the true strength of it and that the finish on it was actually a zinc or nickel alloy plating of some sort, as I recall.

By the way, a rep from T/C told me that they ran armour alloy frames and barrels for a few years and then stopped the production of them.  I don't know the exact year when they did this but they definitely weren't the original form of "stainless steel" guns made by them.  I believe it was just a special run during the early 80's or something like that.  ???

That's all I can tell you.  I've since sold the barrel that I had, needless to say, it was a nice barrel and a lot of fun to shoot .410's out of it.  It wasn't much of a 45 Colt shooter.

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Re: old style stainless question
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2010, 06:22:58 AM »
     Armor Alloy coated frames were from the '80's.  Stainless steel frames were introduced in 1993.  I got number S1946 in spring of '93.  I think I'm remembering the Armor Alloy running 2-3 years.
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Re: old style stainless question
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2010, 06:26:02 AM »
     Armor Alloy coated frames were from the '80's.  Stainless steel frames were introduced in 1993.  I got number S1946 in spring of '93.  I think I'm remembering the Armor Alloy running 2-3 years.
Walt

Now that you mention it, I think I bought my stainless frame in '94....so that makes sense.  Thanks for getting that straight Walt!

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Re: old style stainless question
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2010, 07:29:05 AM »
Armor alloy frames serial no's start with the letter "A".  Stainless starts with "S".  Barrels are stamped on the lug, if armor alloy anyways, with an A on the lug, I believe.  The posters above mentioned the AA barrels had smaller holes.  I just went through this...bought an AA frame and barrel thinking it was SS.  My blued bbls wouldn't fit.  The smaller AA style pin was loose.  I called TC, sent it back and had the frame and barrel opened up to accept blued or SS barrels.  So far so good.

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Re: old style stainless question
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2010, 08:00:36 AM »
Lots of accurate information so far Walt/Charlie/BH.   

Another one that sometimes confuses the issue is the early Contender frames that were "Kromed" by SSK.    I've also seen "stainless look" Contender frames with Diamondkote and Teflon, and others that were Parkerized BTW.

Armor Alloy's ran from 1985-1989 and from serial A2001-A10897.
Stainless ran from 1993-2000 and from approx. serial S1100 to S42281.
SSK Krome and the other finishes could be on any vintage of Contender.

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Re: old style stainless question
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2010, 03:52:14 PM »
I was pertty sure this fellow did not know what he was talking about so thought I would ask all of you experts here, I knew some one would have the answer. Thanks

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Re: old style stainless question
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2010, 03:31:20 AM »
I'm definitely not an expert.....just a fellow shooter.
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Re: old style stainless question
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2010, 05:58:49 AM »
Hey Deacon the one I had over at your house is definatly stainless.  Dennis

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Re: old style stainless question
« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2010, 08:13:57 AM »
Are you saying that you wont me to have it ;)

Deaconllb
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