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Offline Kal52

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buffalo bill 94
« on: February 05, 2010, 06:59:30 PM »
OK, so i was at the gun shop today, and I happend to see a Buffalo bill win 94.
Its got all the engraving etc, which I dont care much for, but what I do like it the octogon barrel, man it that sweet, a bit heavy but feels right to me.

anyhow, what is one of these worth? I cant remember the price offhand I think it was mid 500ish
I may have to pick it up, its in fantastic shape.

  It may be a shame if I do, because its not going to be a safe queen its going to get shot and hunted pretty hard if I do get it. Just dont want to ruin it if it may be worth keeping pretty, and it seems the wood on my guns doesnt stay pretty for long  ;)

what are your thoughts, did they make any more 94s with an octogon barrel?

Dave

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Re: buffalo bill 94
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2010, 03:58:55 AM »
Yes indeed they did.  The "Classic" series included an octagon rifle and short rifle--nice wood, needless cheap-looking engraving, and a gold plated loading gate.  They made them in the late-60's-early '70's.  These had octagon barrels.  Then, a whole flock of the most bizarre looking "commemoratives" came out--usually in the same pairing--26 and 20 inch barrels.  Some commemoratives had round barrels, but most were octagon.  I have a classic rifle (26 inch), with a regular 94 loading gate and a steel lifter.  It's a tack driver.  At the time all of these "commemoratives" were coming out, Winchester made their own barrels, on some pretty ancient-looking equipment.  Many of those who own Octagon rifles of that era and have shot them consider them to be very accurate--even though Winchester was trying to market them as safe queens.  There were so many comemoratives that came out, comemorating nearly everything imaginable, that most were worth less than a decent working 94 in the end.  Several postings, on various gun websites, have been made by guys who've shot a Buffalo Bill model 94 like yours, with very good results.  Maybe one of these guys posted on this website--I remember seeing one but don't recall where.  IMO, hunt and shoot your rifle.  I've hunted with my Classic ever since 1969.  It's worth a whole lot more to me as a gun that I use, and I won't part with it.

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Re: buffalo bill 94
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2010, 04:30:33 AM »
sorry if I didnt make it clear,  I do NOT own this rife YET  :D
I was more concerned about the price and the "collectability" of it.
the way I see it, if its been shot, its not a "collectable", but to me it would be I love the 94s and other classic lever guns, especially with the octogon barrels, just great looking.
I just think it pointless to buy a perfectly good rifle just to sit and stare at it, its like finding a beautiful woman then marrying her  ;D

Thanks for the info, Im gonna talk to said beautiful woman, and see if she would like it for valentines day  ;D ;D

Dave

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Re: buffalo bill 94
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2010, 04:40:40 AM »
my grandpa had one of these and gave it to my cousin so i kinda notice them when i see them, the $500 range seems to be on par from what i've seen over the last few years. i definitely wouldn't be afraid to shoot it they are fairly common, not that rare. when i was a kid i thought it was more specail, but as i got around more i've found they musta made alot of them. i also like the octagon barrel.
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Re: buffalo bill 94
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2010, 01:56:24 AM »
Back in the early 70's I bought the Buffalo Bill carbine model NIB from a friend that needed some money. I keep it for a few years, but it was too pretty to shoot. So I sold it to buy a shootable gun. In hind sight I kinda regret doing it now.  :( :(

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Re: buffalo bill 94
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2010, 02:26:18 AM »
Kal52,
My first thought is the gun has been shot, setting on a gun shop shelf without the box.  The gun is collectable but without the box and paperwork that will take some away IMO.  If you like it buy it and shoot it enjoy it.
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Re: buffalo bill 94
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2010, 03:30:24 AM »
I look at those guns, commoratives/collectibles, like this:

1) Do I LIKE the feature(s) of a particular rifle ?

2) HOW much $$$ would an original specimen in the same condition cost me ?  ( usually 2x-3x more)

3) Does it have a factory prep for a peep or tang sight ? ( It's going hunting)

4) What do I have to do to pay for it ? ( NOT "can I afford it" - if I did THAT, I'd never get another gun)

Where else can you get what amounts to virtually a NEW rifle with older/classic features at less than half the cost ?

Why are you still talking to us - ILO off, buying it ?   ;D

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Re: buffalo bill 94
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2010, 08:15:10 PM »
atm, I think Im going to pass on it, I like it, but I dont want to pay 570.00 for it.  But man that does look nice with the octogon barrel.

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Re: buffalo bill 94
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2010, 03:00:13 AM »
I was surfing through Gunbroker yesterday and noticed a couple of Winchester "Classic"s, as well as a matched pair (rifle and short rifle) on there.  I didn't save the links so I can't post them here.  One of these was a 26" Classic Rifle (not commemorating anything, but with that cast-in engraving and a gold loading gate) that looked to be in good shape. The ad said it had been hunted with.  I think the price was in the 5-600 dollar range.