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BC 45-70 ANOTHER QUESTION
« on: January 28, 2010, 06:26:10 AM »
Just wondering....My new guns barrel seems to lock up nice and tight but I noticed something. The barrel and forend seem to "walk over" to one side slightly (about 1/32") after opening and closing action a few times after reassembly. In other words, this is where it wants to settle in....just a little off center in relation to the frame. The forend spacer is centered left to right on the wooden forend, but if you look at the spacer to frame fit the spacer is sticking out past frame about 1/32" on one side and 1/32" recessed on the other side. If I look at the barrel in the frame, I can also see the same amount of difference left to right. Is this fairly normal for these guns? What kind of tolerance is there on these guns in this area?
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Re: BC 45-70 ANOTHER QUESTION
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2010, 07:37:57 AM »
I am not the local expert on this, but with an H&R I don't think I would worry about 1/32 of a inch. If it is really bothering you, you may want to check in on the barrel fitting on the FAQ's page. You might could refit it to precision, but I don't know that you will get much better than 1/32.

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Re: BC 45-70 ANOTHER QUESTION
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2010, 07:50:45 AM »
I would shoot it first, then if there's a problem, you have another reason to send it in for repair. Fred M's barrel fitting instructions link in the FAQs addresses that issue, his method of repair is to bed the underlug in the frame.

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Re: BC 45-70 ANOTHER QUESTION
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2010, 08:12:29 AM »
Thanks Daman and Tim. I will find and read Fred M's report in the Faq's section on this. I am curious if anyone has noticed this with their gun. Should I be concerned with the 1/32" to one side? What is the actual "side play" tolerance? Maybe the Faq section will tell me. I don't have any ammo yet but I may have to break down and spend $30-35 bucks on one box of factory ammo! I'm not sure how many rounds it may take to see if things change or not?!?
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Re: BC 45-70 ANOTHER QUESTION
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2010, 08:57:01 AM »
My 7mm-08 is perfectly aligned on both sides as best as I remember. There are guys here who have 20 or 30 of these Handi's each so maybe they will chime in and help to answer your questions.

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Re: BC 45-70 ANOTHER QUESTION
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2010, 10:44:54 AM »
I'd listen to Tim.  Shoot it first.  It may be very consistent and not effect accuracy at all.   In other words, it may just be an imagined problem.  Worry about things after they happen.

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Re: BC 45-70 ANOTHER QUESTION
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2010, 10:53:06 AM »
I've got one (factory rifle) that sort of wanders over to the left as it closes but it does it each and every time in the exact manner.  Mine shoots fine.  At worst you might have primers that are pinned a little off center, if its even noticeable. 

Funny thing about mine was that I never noticed it until I started buying new barrels and looking into fitting them.  So I probably shot it for nearly a year before noticing it.

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Re: BC 45-70 ANOTHER QUESTION
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2010, 01:52:50 PM »
Thanks guys for the replies.I asked my question because I was "wondering" as I stated. I also asked if this is fairly normal for these guns, obviously not terribly "worried" as petemi suggests. I have always had an eye for detail, hence my technical background, etc. I know what is "ideal" and what I should be seeing idealy....I do NOT expect this gun to lock up and have everything aligned like my Browning Citori or other more expensive guns. I was just pure and simply asking if this is to be expected of these guns and if anyone else has the same thing. How well the gun shoots is of course very important to me, but also important to a LESSER degree is this alignment I'm speaking of which can affect accuracy per Fred M's accurizing instructions. I will probably shoot it first and also watch for any changes in alignment, but I also would prefer things lined up better no matter how well it might shoot. I may even add the side shims that Fred M speeks of just to get things lined up better, it certainly won't hurt a thing and may make the lug last longer. My concern is a mild one, none the less a concern....that's why I asked if others have noticed the same thing or not. I can shim like Fred M or opt to leave it alone, whatever suits my fancy. I like to research things and gain knowledge, which is part of the reason for this forum which has proven to be very helpful. If certain individuals wish to think I'm overly "worried" so be it. What isn't important to one person may be somewhat important to another for various reasons....we are all individuals, thank God. Anyway you look at it, taking "slop" out never hurts, it just may not be important to everyone. If I can improve on something as Fred M suggests for valid reasons, I just may opt to do so. It really isn't a rocket science modification, quite simple and straight forward....I may even enjoy it.
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