Author Topic: Scope rings ? (Read 922 times)

jonesjj · « **on:** October 17, 2003, 03:39:59 AM »

I am hopfully taking delivery of my SRH 454 today and will be putting a Leuopold scope on it.

My question is about rings and what guys are having good luck with on a heavy recoiling handgun like the 454 or similar 44 mag exetra.

I have lapped all my rifle rings in the past so I am aware of the importance of doing that, stock ruger rings are the ones I have had to do the most work with, never scoping any handgun before with this potental recoil I would like to make the best choice possible right from the start.

I have been looking at the Burris signiture rings with Signature Pos-Align® Offset Insert Kit, http://www.burrisoptics.com/rings.html web sit if any one would like to look at them and give an opinion, good or bad.

Maybe I should look at the leuopold rings for it too. I know I could use the stock rings but I would like to see what people think has worked the best for them and maybe what they have used and didnt work out so well and would do it diffrent if starting over.

Jeff

TScottO · « **Reply #1 on:** October 17, 2003, 10:32:19 AM »

Hello jonesjj,

Burris makes great rings. The SRH will come with a set of rings but I really like the idea of the Burris. If you look at the frame of the SRH you will see that the scope mounting area is higher on the back of the frame than it is on the front. I could be wrong here, I hope some of the SRH owners will correct me if I am, but Im pretty sure that you will have a higher front ring and a lower rear ring. Im not sure if Burris will supply the proper heights you will need for good scope alignment in their Ruger style rings. If Burris does not offer the proper height you will have to buy the adapter plate for the Ruger frame to a weaver type of mount. Maybe you could call Burris and find this out for sure. Or call Ruger and see what height rings come with your gun. You may be able to work around the having to use the adapter plate.

Good luck and be safe,
Scott

coltfan · « **Reply #2 on:** October 17, 2003, 05:49:56 PM »

I'm also a "Burris only"believer. However I have only used them on a 7 X 30 Waters Contender, and a .44 mag Anaconda, so I am not speaking from experience when it comes to the .454. However, if I were scoping a .454, I would try the Burris signature rings and the pos-align inserts. These rings allow you to zero your scope without using the scopes internal adjustment. According to the Burris advertisements, this allows the scope to perform at its best. This seems to make good sense to me, and my scopes sure seem nice and clear even in low light situations. The one thing I know for sure, is that it sure makes zeroing the scope a snap. Also, based on my .44 mag experience, the nylon inserts seem to hold the scope quite well. Much better than steel rings, even those that have been lapped.

By the way, you might want to consider the Burris 2 X 7 scope in place of the Leupold. I can't say enough about my Burris 3 X 12, and you'll keep about a hundred and fifty bucks in your pocket.

jonesjj · « **Reply #3 on:** October 17, 2003, 06:02:28 PM »

Well got on the phone with Burris today and to use there rings on the SRH I have to get the Weaver base for it, there is a step in it and the stock rings are two diff hights.

I will be using the signiture rings and the pos-alighn forsure on it, the tech at burris said to use the med high rings but I am wondering if I can go to the low hight rings to keep it as low as possible.

Real funny thing happend when I called and finley got to speek to the tech, I said I am inquiring about a set of rings to put on my SRH and he said (why) I was not sure why he said that but he wasnt very inthuseastic about helping me find out exactly what I needed to get the job done. Maybe becouse it was friday and he had a long week.

KYODE · « **Reply #4 on:** October 18, 2003, 01:53:46 AM »

actually i'm wondering why too? :shock: does it have the factory rings with it? i'd use the factory rings before i put a weaver base on, just to use the signatures. the burris rings are great, but ruger factory rings are too. they have held the burris 2x on my redhawk 44mag for years. the factory rings is what i'd use on that gun. just my opinion.

Bullseye · « **Reply #5 on:** October 19, 2003, 05:27:31 PM »

I would not put one of the Weaver conversion bases on it, and it has nothing to do with the fact that I am not big on the Signature Rings. The conversion piece just adds one more joint to come loose and cause you problems. One big advantage of the SRH is the integral scope mounts, why add to it. I had a scope on my SRH for a while and the factory rings worked fine, I did lap them but they were really not off enough to justify it. Just my opinion.

jonesjj · « **Reply #6 on:** October 19, 2003, 05:58:05 PM »

Well after some thought and reading the repies I am going to use the ruger rings that come with the SRH. I do have a kit I orderd from sinclair awhile ago to lap 1" rings so that is what I will do.

I should have the Leupold 2X on Tue or Wed and I will be at the range on Turs sighting it in. I am going to zero at 50 yrds, do you guys think that will be a good yardage to zero at ?

My longest shot shouldn't be more than 80 or so yards. I have some Corbond 45 colt +P 265gn JHP and some Corbond 45 colt +P 300gn JSP I will be trying out.

KYODE · « **Reply #7 on:** October 20, 2003, 01:42:53 AM »

i think you'll be better off using the factory ruger rings. i like them really well for myself, and think it's a good setup from ruger.
i sight my redhawk 44mag just a little high at 50 yards. not much, maybe 1" or so high.

PAhunter · « **Reply #8 on:** October 20, 2003, 04:24:50 AM »

Anyone have a good fix for factory Ruger rings that keep coming loose on an SRH 454?

jonesjj · « **Reply #9 on:** October 20, 2003, 04:29:04 AM »

In the past on my rifles I use a ( little ) blue lock tite on all threads, where rings go on gun and the screws that hold the top half of ring on.

seems to work for me and I can still get it off if I want, but it don't come loose.

That is what I will be doing with the stock rings that I will be putting on my 454.

just my .02

Jeff

PAhunter · « **Reply #10 on:** October 21, 2003, 09:16:59 AM »

Thanks Jeff, I will give it a try.

jonesjj · « **Reply #11 on:** October 21, 2003, 09:37:02 AM »

I should have menchend that first I get all cutting oil off of the threads and tapped part of ring by pouring some acitone in a small bowl and put all parts in there (rings and screws) and swish them around, then wipe them off, this way I make sure all tread cutting oil is off of the screws and tapped parts of the rings so the locktite will work properly.

If you dont do get the thread cutting oil off first and just put on locktite, it may still work lose. Not locktite fault if it dont work just not good prep before putting it on.

Jeff

Don Dick · « **Reply #12 on:** October 25, 2003, 01:35:15 AM »

If you have to replace the base also look at Warne Manf. they were suggested to me by S&W for my 500 S&W. The rings have recoil locking lugs were they lock into the bases. Warne has a web site.

wildman · « **Reply #13 on:** October 25, 2003, 02:22:20 AM »

You may also consider using a conversion base made by Weigand Combat, which will allow you to use weaver style rings on your revolver. I would then look at Burris Signature Zee rings, with the synthetic inserts. They have excellent gripping power, and will not mark up the scope tube.