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read this thread from just a week or so back,, good read.http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,190654.0.htmlI just did some shooting today to test the RTV bedding I did and there was a small gain, not anything dramatic, my next attempt will be to install the set screw to see if my tention was too tight,,then if no improvement I'll try a different location of the RTV in the fore end. This is all with my 7-08, my 223 likes the rubber o-ring/set screw just fine,