any ideas for a solid, reliable set of iron sights for a handi-rifle in 45-70?

[Squib]

I would like to be able to hit cans at fifty yds... acquirable for a "quickdraw" @ 25yds

I do not care about super accuracy (.3" groups), don't care about long range (my eyes won't let me do well past 50 with my "naked" eyes anyways) and I don't want anything electronic or "funky".... just some iron or fiber optic sights that have reasonable accuracy, quick focus speed and low-light operability.  I'm poor too, ... so if it's over $100 then I'm out.

[zoner]

how about a williams wgrs peep.....40 bucks for the peep,about 10 bucks for a williams riser in front(it goes in the barrel dovetail and accepts a dove tail front sight) and about ten bucks for the appropriate height front sight. the williams riser is .250 high so you need about a .400 front sight according to the brownells formula......

[quickdtoo]

See  Peep and Firesights in the FAQs, the WGRS with a ghost rings carrier or without an aperture works as good as it gets, H&R sells the WGRS for less than $20, Oct 2008 price was $18.55, the 45-70 Handi doesn't have dovetails, Firesights listed in the Peeps link are correct for the 45-70 Handi for use with the WGRS.

Tim

[cwlongshot]

Whats cheaper then the factory stock sites???  Your limiting your shots to 50 yards and you want cheap... KEEP WHAT YOU GOT!!

If you gotta spend some dollars, Peeps like the afore mentioned Williams WGRS sites are very nice.

CW

[peternap]

Whats cheaper then the factory stock sites???  Your limiting your shots to 50 yards and you want cheap... KEEP WHAT YOU GOT!!

If you gotta spend some dollars, Peeps like the afore mentioned Williams WGRS sites are very nice.

CW

I couldn't agree more!

At 50 yards you can almost hold 3" groups without any sights at all. I tend to get carried away with sights sometimes, but with one of my 45/70 Handi's, I took the scope mounts off and left the factory sights on. It's plenty accurate to 75 yards even with my aging eyes.

It is hands down, the most carryable rifle I have and I usually have it if I'm not hunting something specific.

[Squib]

I'm gonna add some height and bulge to the comb.... to keep the sight picture more consistent.  my vision is about 20/20 but my left eye won't focus sometimes, and the right one is a bit slow (bomb-blast to the face, it's a bit hard to dance around those problems).  I think that if I can keep my sight picture totally consistent, I can put that sight picture over a deer and hit easily enough.  I can hit a pizza box shooting quick so that's a torso hit but keeping the hits centered for a head shot really is hard for me.  I hadn't tried shooting a rifle with iron sights since 05 0r 06 so I didn't know my eyes were still that bad (post surgery).  Everything I've done since then was with a scope, so while my eyes are slow to focus I can still get accurate shots off easily enough.  I've found that's not repeatable with my handi.  It's not the rifle, it's me and my vision causing this problem. 

Long story short, I'll build up the comb and then with a more consistent sight picture- I'll be able to trust what I see while moving or engaging a moving target (I think).  cwlongshot suggested the beartooth comb kit- so far that's the best I've found online (and the cheapest effective looking one).  any other suggestions for cheapo adhesives or stock-sock type stuff?

[Mac11700]

I'm gonna add some height and bulge to the comb.... to keep the sight picture more consistent.  my vision is about 20/20 but my left eye won't focus sometimes, and the right one is a bit slow (bomb-blast to the face, it's a bit hard to dance around those problems).  I think that if I can keep my sight picture totally consistent, I can put that sight picture over a deer and hit easily enough.  I can hit a pizza box shooting quick so that's a torso hit but keeping the hits centered for a head shot really is hard for me.  I hadn't tried shooting a rifle with iron sights since 05 0r 06 so I didn't know my eyes were still that bad (post surgery).  Everything I've done since then was with a scope, so while my eyes are slow to focus I can still get accurate shots off easily enough.  I've found that's not repeatable with my handi.  It's not the rifle, it's me and my vision causing this problem.  

Long story short, I'll build up the comb and then with a more consistent sight picture- I'll be able to trust what I see while moving or engaging a moving target (I think).  cwlongshot suggested the beartooth comb kit- so far that's the best I've found online (and the cheapest effective looking one).  any other suggestions for cheapo adhesives or stock-sock type stuff?

I've got the beartooth one..never really liked it as much as this simple cost effectice way of doing it..



As far as effective..many have done this and it works..It may not look as nice as the Beartooth..but..it fits better..and certainly is cheaper..Your not limited to their pads which have a tendacy to slip..and really don't offer any protection unless your laying your head over the top of the stock ( which really isn't the best way of doing things)..

A factory one that will promote a solid cheek rest( on the side of the rifle..not the top) is one like this..



The cost a little more..but work real good..

A old favorite of mine is a full lace on one that most of the old timers will reconize..from the M1 garands..



They work pretty good to..and ad a bit of flair with the leather laces..

One last place I found on doing a quick search for these..

http://www.cheeknstock.com/products.html

These look pretty nice..and aren't too outragous for cost

But..for cheap..that works great..It is hard to beat the Uncle Mikes and a bit of foam..

Hope you figure it all out..



Mac

[cwlongshot]

Here is a pic of the straight comb stock I have the beartooth on... It works well enough. I'm sure no better then what Mac has posted.



CW

[Squib]

thanks guys, definitely better than looking at some bland "prettied up" pictures online that usually don't even have a stock inside the comb kits.  I had thought about being ghetto and using a hot glue gun but I'm not co-ordinated or patient so that could get ugly real quick.... I'm a real clumsy guy.  I could just buy a new stock but this one is sturdy, fits the reciever real tight, holds lots of #9shot (3lbs) and fits my limbsaver good.... and a new stock might not fit my face either.


I'll check your products/links.  thanks again guys