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Sept. 13 (Bloomberg) -- Joseph Stiglitz, the Nobel Prize- winning economist, said the U.S. has failed to fix the underlying problems of its banking system after the credit crunch and the collapse of Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc.

“In the U.S. and many other countries, the too-big-to-fail banks have become even bigger,” Stiglitz said in an interview today in Paris. “The problems are worse than they were in 2007 before the crisis.”

Stiglitz’s views echo those of former Federal Reserve Chairman Paul Volcker, who has advised President Barack Obama’s administration to curtail the size of banks, and Bank of Israel Governor Stanley Fischer, who suggested last month that governments may want to discourage financial institutions from growing “excessively.”

A year after the demise of Lehman forced the Treasury Department to spend billions to shore up the financial system, Bank of America Corp.’s assets have grown and Citigroup Inc. remains intact. In the U.K., Lloyds Banking Group Plc, 43 percent owned by the government, has taken over the activities of HBOS Plc, and in France BNP Paribas SA now owns the Belgian and Luxembourg banking assets of insurer Fortis.

While Obama wants to name some banks as “systemically important” and subject them to stricter oversight, his plan wouldn’t force them to shrink or simplify their structure.

Stiglitz said the U.S. government is wary of challenging the financial industry because it is politically difficult, and that he hopes the Group of 20 leaders will cajole the U.S. into tougher action.

G-20 Steps

“We aren’t doing anything significant so far, and the banks are pushing back,” he said. “The leaders of the G-20 will make some small steps forward, given the power of the banks” and “any step forward is a move in the right direction.”

G-20 leaders gather next week in Pittsburgh and will consider ways of improving regulation of financial markets and in particular how to set tighter limits on remuneration for market operators. Under pressure from France and Germany, G-20 finance ministers last week reached a preliminary accord that included proposals to claw-back cash awards and linking compensation more closely to long-term performance.

“It’s an outrage,” especially “in the U.S. where we poured so much money into the banks,” Stiglitz said. “The administration seems very reluctant to do what is necessary. Yes they’ll do something, the question is: Will they do as much as required?”

Global Economy

Stiglitz, former chief economist at the World Bank and member of the White House Council of Economic Advisers, said the world economy is “far from being out of the woods” even if it has pulled back from the precipice it teetered on after the collapse of Lehman.

“We’re going into an extended period of weak economy, of economic malaise,” Stiglitz said. The U.S. will “grow but not enough to offset the increase in the population,” he said, adding that “if workers do not have income, it’s very hard to see how the U.S. will generate the demand that the world economy needs.”

The Federal Reserve faces a “quandary” in ending its monetary stimulus programs because doing so may drive up the cost of borrowing for the U.S. government, he said.

“The question then is who is going to finance the U.S. government,” Stiglitz said.

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Re: U.S. has failed to fix the underlying problems of its banking system
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2009, 04:55:59 AM »
What we have to do is reinstate the usury laws and limit interest to no more than 3x the prime rate. What is wrong with the bank system is greed!

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Re: U.S. has failed to fix the underlying problems of its banking system
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2009, 05:20:53 AM »
Using the Title of the OP, I have suspicions that the Govt. doesn't want to fix that problem and make way for a new world currency.
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Re: U.S. has failed to fix the underlying problems of its banking system
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2009, 06:11:48 AM »
Using the Title of the OP, I have suspicions that the Govt. doesn't want to fix that problem andmake way for a new world currency.
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Re: U.S. has failed to fix the underlying problems of its banking system
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2009, 03:25:53 PM »
you aint seen nothing yet it is just now staring to really crumble let me know how the outlook is at the end of january 2010.gold is now over 1000 and silver is over 17 bucks the Canadian dollar is 93 cents and rising and the worst indicator of all the head of the fed says the crisis is over and we are out of the recession.(He still has a job)
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Re: U.S. has failed to fix the underlying problems of its banking system
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2009, 01:24:51 AM »
Perhaps we will see a "Currency Czar" being created from the WH shortly.
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« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2009, 05:13:30 AM »
I'm with torpedoman on this. We've just seen the begining. 2 years from now these will really be ''the good old days''. gypsyman
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« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2009, 06:00:29 AM »
Maybe the monopoly laws need to be enforced and break up the big banks into smaller banks.  The oil companies also.  I remember as a kid, we had the following oil companies, Gulf, Texaco, Standard, Amoco, Pure, Sinclair, Esso, Cities Service, as well as many independents.  Gulf and Amoco got bought out by BP.  Pure, Sinclair, and Esso, got bought or merged to become Exxon.  Don't remember what happened to Texaco.  Break them up to get more competition, better prices, and maybe more production.  Banks the same way.  We only have two major airplane manufacturers now, Boeing and Lockheed.  Remember Consolidated, Grumman, Northrop, Convair, Curtis, Martin, as well as many others.  We also had more than three auto manufacturers.  Remember Rambler, Studebaker, Hudson, Willis, before the mergers and takeovers. 

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« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2009, 06:42:33 AM »
I also remember AT&T and the phone company break-up. Seems to me that they did a much better job before, than after.  gypsyman
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« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2009, 09:38:32 AM »
AT&T was a "natural monopoly" and was regulated.  Their rates and what they could and could not do were regulated.  There are some natural monopolys with no competition, like utilities.  You don't have two different power lines or gas mains in the street to choose from.  So, utilites rates are regulated.  AT&T should never have been broken up, but Sprint sued so they could compete in the long distance business back in the 80's with their fiber optic system.  Now, however cell phones have taken over.  The baby Bell's reunited with AT&T but they are a shell of what they used to be with the advent of cell phones. 

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« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2009, 05:26:36 PM »
TARP money was supposed to be used to buy up bad assets. The Gov spent most of the money on social programs. The bad debt is still on the books of the banks. FDIC raised its guarantee to $250K until DEC 2009, to avoid a bank run. Over 80 new bank failures this year and rising. Sec. of the Treasury cheated on his income tax, but we hired him anyway. Bernake says everything is OK. China holds most US debt. Now they're pissed because we want to ban their junk tires, Oh and we want a health care program to put us another ONE TRILLION in debt.  ALL PAPER MONEY IS EVENTUALLY INFLATED AWAY. Osama Bin Laden just has to wait for the bank failures and the coming economic collapse. Doesn't have to fire a shot or fly a plane. Congress will do the job for him.
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Re: U.S. has failed to fix the underlying problems of its banking system
« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2009, 03:40:38 AM »
there was really never anything wrong with the banking system, we were all just lead to believe it in order for the new government to print more money to help destroy our economy so it would be easier to bring US all down so they could get their new government started. get the picture ??

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Re: U.S. has failed to fix the underlying problems of its banking system
« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2009, 04:58:42 AM »
Right, if I remember correctly, Bill Clinton pressured the banks into making bad loans to poor people and even to middle class people who were really over the limit.  Banks, left to themselves, would never make bad credit risks.  They were forced to do so starting in 1998. 

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« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2009, 06:41:40 AM »
A fixed standard would be a good start for whatever currency we all end up with.
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