I was buying sabots and figured I would get some of those 410 wads and slugs and give them a try. After loading and shooting a few I will say that while they are interesting I am not sure what they are good for. I got reasonable accuracy from a single shot, I collect Savage 220/219s, and they even shot to point of aim. I got groups of 2-3" at 25 yards and I guess you could kill small game with it. They do load easly and are a lot of fun. A mold would be a good idea, though I do not have one. Shotgunner