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Offline HappyHunter

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« on: September 14, 2003, 05:51:27 PM »
I hope to have a new 41 cal hunting/target revolver by the end of this year.

The trouble is deciding what is worth gettng.  I want adj. sights, 6 to 8 inch barrel in either stainless or blue.

The S & W 657 is the best gun I have found so far.

Does Ruger make a double action gun in 41?

Is Dan Wesson a  possibility?

Any other suggestion?

Thanks!

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« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2003, 01:39:17 AM »
Do you really need a double action? The new Ruger Hunter in either .41 mag or .44 mag is the ideal gun for those calibers especially if you plan on frequently shooting the bigbore. The single action design handles recoil better.
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« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2003, 01:48:17 AM »
Smokem,

I have a 44 Ruger Super Redhawk, and like it very much.  Perhaps I will give the Ruger SA a good lookover.

Do you feel the Blackhawk will handle recoil better than the SRH?

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« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2003, 04:09:36 AM »
Yes it does handle recoil better. It really has to do with the grip design. I have fired a .44 mag blackhawk hunter and the recoil just rolls the gun in your hand. I have a S&W 629 and there is a noticeable difference in recoil between the two. Since I boutght my Ruger SRH 454 casull that has been the only big bore handgun I am shooting on a weekly basis. I have been having thoughts about selling the S&W and getting a blackhawk hunter.But the 629 it was the first handgun I bought. If I had bought the Blackhawk hunter instead of the S&W I probably would not have bought the 454 casull.
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« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2003, 07:21:47 AM »
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Do you really need a double action? The new Ruger Hunter in either .41 mag or .44 mag is the ideal gun for those calibers especially if you plan on frequently shooting the bigbore. The single action design handles recoil better.



Whether you prefer a single action that rolls in your hand to a double action is a matter of personal preference.  I don't like the way a conventional single action rolls in my hand and have sold off the three single actions I did own.  I've not tried a Bisley grip though, I might like that.  My preference is for double actions with pachmayer grips.  It would be best if you could try different guns for yourself before spending the money.
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« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2003, 09:14:16 AM »
It would be best if you try the different types and see which feels better for you.
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« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2003, 01:32:41 PM »
I looked at Ruger Super Blackhawk, the grip seemed small.  Especially after shooting my 44 Super Redhawk.  

I will try to find one to shoot or rent b-4 I buy one.  Local gun dealer did not have the long barrel in stock,  ordered it was $399, how does the price sound?

If the Super Redhawk was offered in 41 that is what I would get, the closest I know to this is the 657.

I just got my 41 cal dies from Dillon today I better get a gun soon!

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« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2003, 02:09:28 PM »
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« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2003, 06:56:33 PM »
I have SW57 (4"), Ruger Bisley and Redhawk 7.5 in 41 mag.   Just chronographed the Bisley and Redhawk with identical loads.  Got 100 fps more from my Redhawk and better accuracy. For really heavy loads I do better with the RH than the Bisley - partly due to its greater overall weight - I have a BSquare full rib scope mount with a Burris 2.75x on the RH and Leupold base w tasco 2x on the Bisley.   I prefer the Bisley grip over the standard BH grip snf my hands are pretty small.  What I like best about the RH is that its stainless and lets me enjoy hunting season a lot more.  Had to replace the Bisley barrel due to rust pitting from my sloppy care one season.  You may have to try them out yourself to be sure what's best. My Bisley seems to love Sierra 170s best of all - shoots very tight with them.  I use Corbon 265 cast for big game.
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« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2003, 04:41:34 PM »
consider the raging bull in a 41.   or the tracker if you want something a bit smaller.    i have a r.b. in 454 and a sbh hunter in 44mag.  i like the sbh hunter; my only complaint is i dont like a single action's rolling recoil.  i prefer the double action's.  there are a good many folks, myself included, that consider taurus guns better than the smiths.   if you are considerng a smith, do yourself a favor and check out the taurus before you buy.    for political reasons i wont even consider a smith; i dont like knives in my back.    
  but either of the taurus (raging bull or the tracker) or the sbh's are good choices.  hell of a dilemma you have
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« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2003, 05:06:19 PM »
Thanks to all for your input, suggestions.

Double action is what I will go with, just need the right one to fall in my lap.

I will need to look out for a used Ruger at a Reasonable Price, or perhaps the Taurus.

I guess I felt that the Taurus was not as good a gun as the Ruger or Smith, I will give them another look.

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« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2003, 05:26:12 PM »
dollar for dollar,  i think the taurus beats the ruger.   they are some serious guns.
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« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2003, 03:30:59 AM »
myronman, not when it comes to strength and longevity.

I have a Taurus .357 that's having some problems.  The cylinder is getting sloppy, and once in a while it will miss turning the cylinder all the way to lockup.  Granted, it's about 15 years old, but I have revolvers that have had 5+ times as many rounds through them that still operate as they should.  Heck, I've got Smith & Wesson and Ruger handguns that still work like new that have been around a lot longer than Taurus has.

Now, I'm not doggin' Taurus.  They've come a long ways in the firearms industry in a short time.  I've even heard that they've improved their quality some over the years, but from what I've seen they still don't hold up like some of the others.  I just see them as a decent quality, affordable gun.

Kinda like cars;  if you want something that will get the job done when the going gets rough then you buy a heavy duty truck (Ruger);  if you want something fast and easy to handle then you buy a sports car (S&W).  Sure, a 2 WD Nissan PU will get the job done most of the time, but.... :-)

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« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2003, 07:02:23 AM »
if you are talking strictly longevity, maybe.   a taurus that is 15 years old isnt  the quality that they are putting out today.    when i wear mine out i will let everyone know (i wouldnt wait around for that if i were you guys). i dont think that will be for a long time.
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« Reply #14 on: September 20, 2003, 05:20:43 PM »
I looked at a 480 Raging Bull today at a gun shop.  The lock up was tighter than my Smiths, or Ruger revolvers!  This amazed me, I will be checking them out further at a local gunshow this Sunday.

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« Reply #15 on: September 22, 2003, 01:05:32 AM »
Why does every dealer I ask (three of three)  say that the Taurus is not as dependable as the Ruger or Smith?  When asked why they say that more Taurus are shipped back to factory for repair than the others.

Any experience with this?  Was this a problem that is not anymore?  

The only Taurus I have owned is a 22 lr Tracker, it was fine.  I traded it off for my Mark II before it was barely broke in, but no problems.

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« Reply #16 on: September 24, 2003, 12:37:55 PM »
I ordered the 6-1/2 inch Raging Bull.

I think I am gonna love this caliber!

Thanks to all for your advice.

Fred :D
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« Reply #17 on: September 26, 2003, 02:00:46 AM »
i have been away for a while; sorry for not answering sooner.   i couldnt say about the dealers opinions.  all i can tell you is that every taurus i have owned or shot was a well built gun; with a lot of features for the dollar.  
being a union man, it isnt like me to buy things that arent made in the u.s..   but when s&w sold out gun owners and taurus took the opposite direction; that settled it for me.   besides, since taurus came out with the new lines of revolvers, smith has been scrambling to play catch up ever since.  
the raging bull is an awesome gun, no matter what caliber.  in the 41 it should be accurate and VERY easy with recoil.    when i got mine i debated between the 454 and the 44 for a long time.   i figured i would go with the 454 and download it if need be.   took me a while but i finally devolped some reduced loads for it (300 gr. xtp @ 1155 fps) which are really easy on the shooter.   probably about at the level of recoil you can expect.   i am betting you will love it.
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