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Offline chipmunk

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« on: May 17, 2009, 02:13:37 PM »
I just noticed some changes on H&R's barrel program page.  They look new to me but maybe I just missed them.   Check out the page if you haven't seen them.  It includes things such as...


"Muzzleloader Barrels are not available at this time."

"No Longer Available"  - This has been added to several things.  Most are barrels that I have heard they were out of but a few surprised me.  Take a look and see.

Heres the one that puzzles me:
"*clean barrel, drilled and tapped, base included"
This is added to the 44mag and 357. 
Clean Barrel?  Seems random, is there something I don't get here?   
Drilled and tapped?  I thought all rifle barrels were.
Base included?  Are they saying that it has sights and comes with a base? No sites but a base? I'm not sure.


Anyway, none of these affect me, but I thought some might want to know.  Check out the page.  There might be some changes I didn't catch. At least Remington is updating the site some!
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Re: Changes
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2009, 02:38:03 PM »
Good Eye Chimpmunk! Now I have something else to complain about. :) Like you said, at least they're doing something. I think it means there will be no sights on those barrels. I wish they would of kept the 243 22" and dumped the bull. And take the sights off the Hornet in 22". I'll have to call them in the morning. :)
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Re: Changes
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2009, 02:44:21 PM »
Quote from: chipmunk on May 17, 2009, 02:13:37 PM
I just noticed some changes on H&R's barrel program page.  They look new to me but maybe I just missed them.   Check out the page if you haven't seen them.  It includes things such as...


"Muzzleloader Barrels are not available at this time."

"No Longer Available"  - This has been added to several things.  Most are barrels that I have heard they were out of but a few surprised me.  Take a look and see.

Heres the one that puzzles me:
"*clean barrel, drilled and tapped, base included"
This is added to the 44mag and 357. 
Clean Barrel?  Seems random, is there something I don't get here?   
Drilled and tapped?  I thought all rifle barrels were.
Base included?  Are they saying that it has sights and comes with a base? No sites but a base? I'm not sure.


Anyway, none of these affect me, but I thought some might want to know.  Check out the page.  There might be some changes I didn't catch. At least Remington is updating the site some!

Thats exactly what it is , no sights , just a scope base . I saw the other stuff on the site also about barrel no longer availlable , just wonder if they are downsizing what is offered or just a temp thing ?

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Re: Changes
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2009, 03:03:21 PM »
DUH!

I knew I was missing something there.  I was somehow thinking clean as in "not dirty!"

I'm only an idiot like that sometimes :D
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Re: Changes
« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2009, 03:27:55 PM »
Not 100% on these , but most times when a company says Clean Barrel , it refures to having no drilling & tapping for sights at all just a scope mount .

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Re: Changes
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2009, 04:08:59 PM »


  Right Stimpy, that's the way I read it.
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Re: Changes
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2009, 04:31:02 PM »
Not including the hammer spur decreases value by $10 or raises cost by $10
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Re: Changes
« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2009, 05:18:46 PM »
Chipmunk, Those are the new self cleaning barrels we've been waiting on. :D Don't worry about saying idiotic things, I think it comes with age. :-[

Maybe it's a good sign that they plan on having some barrels. :o
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Re: Changes
« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2009, 03:05:54 AM »
People probably need to make note of the hammer spur thing.  Normally it wouldn't be a problem unless you don't already have one on the gun.    Just a cost cutting thing for them.

Hopefully if Remington starts streamlining and cutting things like this it will make H&R profitable enough for them to fix the CS in the barrel program.  Right now I want a 45-70 barrel but I'm afraid to send it off.  Heard to many horror stories recently.  Decided to go the used route.  If I can ever find one!   
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Re: Changes
« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2009, 04:12:55 AM »
It is funny that Chip mentioned this , since I had noticed it yesterday while looking at Tim's refference to H&R's site about those synthetic camo stocks... Really hadnt thought to ask anyone about it ... I know i had read many a gripe about the various different barrels that were out of stock and figured on first thought that that was related to those facts ... I also see that the 450 marlin was among those ( if this caliber was dropped it wouldnt surprise me in the least) ... Thou i think we can rule out this being due to whats in stock since the #1 biggest gripe when getting accessory barrels is their lack of 357 mag barrels and they dont have that one listed as "no longer available" 

 So i would deduce that they are thining the herd , getting rid of barrels that they might deem a waste of time or effort due to other barrels in that caliber .... I see that the 223 bull barrel is one among those counted as "no longer available" as is the standard contour 243 , 45 LC and the sightless 20" 22 hornet barrel ...So this might the future of having big green owning our handis ... Barrel doesnt make enough money and *po0f* bye-bye ??  Maybe  ... But my guess is that Tim will get to the bottom of this for us  ::) Ohhhhhh TIMmmmm ?   heh

 We'll see ,

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Re: Changes
« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2009, 04:31:26 AM »
I'm working on it, I have several unanswered emails pending.  :-\

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Re: Changes
« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2009, 06:12:04 AM »
I can't imagine it would be a big deal if they thinned out a few barrels.  Especially if the dropped ones aren't profitable.   That is...as long as they use the money saved from dropping them to do other things.  (LIKE WORK ON CUSTOMER SERVICE - I KNOW YOU CAN HEAR ME REMINGTON!)   

Personally, I think it would be neat if Remington used the barrel program to play with some of the cartridges that they always have floating around.  I know they have several promising cartridges that they just can't get going.  Maybe if they made a few handi barrels in them they could get a fanbase going.  I'm sure a good number of handiholics would buy just about any new barrel "just because."   But that's probably just wishful thinking though. 
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Re: Changes
« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2009, 07:40:45 AM »
I'll have more info in 2-3 weeks.  ;)

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Re: Changes
« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2009, 06:58:34 PM »
Tim, This may be one of my dumb questions and I don't think it's in the FAQs. Not being a wise guy! In the catalog it says Please note: They are capable of being fit with acc. shotgun barrels, but they are only operational with the 44 or 357 mag. rifle barrel that is shipped with the gun. I think I read something similar, maybe on website that sounded like if you buy a new 44 sb1 you can't have it fit with a 357. I can't find that right now. Tired and prob crazy. Doesn't sound sensible. Thanks and good night.
Found it: their rifle capability is limited to the specific 44 or 357 mag barrel that is shipped on the gun.
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Re: Changes
« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2009, 08:58:50 PM »
Here's the entire note.

Tim

http://www.hr1871.com/Firearms/Rifles/handiRifle.asp
*Note: The frame of the 44 Mag. (SB1-S44) and the 357 Mag. (SB1-S35) cannot be fit with any other centerfire rifle barrel. They are capable of being fit with accessory shotgun barrels, but their rifle capability is limited to the specific 44 or 357 Mag. barrel that it is shipped on the gun.
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