Author Topic: Can you wear a handirifle out? (Read 1249 times)

a4beltfed2000 · « **on:** April 28, 2009, 12:39:28 PM »

So if I purchase say a half of dozen barrels? What if you finally shoot your handi enough to wear out the receiver or is this possible, can they be fitted to another frame or are you screwed? I've seen enough singleshot shotguns that seen alot of wear and tear and were worn out.....

quickdtoo · « **Reply #1 on:** April 28, 2009, 12:53:56 PM »

Barrels can be fitted as shown in the FAQs, all frame parts can be replaced, they're all listed in the Handi owner's manual online and in the FAQs, many parts are available from Brownell's, all are available from H&R, but some need to be installed by the factory if you buy from them, I seriously doubt you'll wear the frame itself beyond use.

Tim

Kmrere42 · « **Reply #2 on:** April 28, 2009, 03:33:19 PM »

Hi,

One thing that I have noticed on my hornet is that the ejector has put two vertical groves into the face of the receiver that are the same width of the extractor. I have stoned the facing surface of the extractor and found that it had raised edges on both sides.

It might be a secondary reason why they went to extractors, no springs.

Paul

dpe.ahoy · « **Reply #3 on:** April 28, 2009, 03:35:25 PM »

I hope to shoot mine enough to wear them out!

Sounds like fun to me.

DP

trotterlg · « **Reply #4 on:** April 28, 2009, 03:38:33 PM »

Yes, you are in great danger of wearing it out, so you should buy several to spread out the usage and make them last longer. Larry

MrJames680 · « **Reply #5 on:** April 28, 2009, 06:56:54 PM »

So..... Can you in fact wear out a receiver/frame?
I want EVERYONES $.02

reno2507 · « **Reply #6 on:** April 28, 2009, 07:32:26 PM »

I would think it would be "possible" to wear out any receiver, or any other mechanical device for that matter...Not trying to be a smart alleck, but there are hundreds of variables that I would think would make this question impossible to answer..Just a few are; What caliber? How hot? Owner neglect? Climate?..etc, etc...

maglvr44 · « **Reply #7 on:** April 28, 2009, 07:37:28 PM »

Quote from: a4beltfed2000 on April 28, 2009, 12:39:28 PM

So if I purchase say a half of dozen barrels? What if you finally shoot your handi enough to wear out the receiver or is this possible, can they be fitted to another frame or are you screwed? I've seen enough singleshot shotguns that seen alot of wear and tear and were worn out.....

Only the rocks live forever!

reno2507 · « **Reply #8 on:** April 28, 2009, 08:06:50 PM »

Rocks make sand...

Badnews Bob · « **Reply #9 on:** April 28, 2009, 11:32:41 PM »

How many licks dose it take to get to the center of a tootsie roll pop?

I don't know and don't think I'll ever find out.

a4beltfed2000 · « **Reply #10 on:** April 29, 2009, 01:33:31 AM »

Most of the rounds are 45/70 45LC 44mag. I also have a SB1 with 12,20,28,16 and 410 barrels. Mostly bird loads here.

However, I know that my 1919a4, I have replaced 3 barrels, a firing pin, sear and trigger, I do realize that this is comparing apples to oranges, and I will probably never reach that number of shells through a Handi...

wreckhog · « **Reply #11 on:** April 29, 2009, 04:45:11 AM »

A complete SB2 receiver is worth maybe $100. How long should it last?

Singleshotsam · « **Reply #12 on:** April 29, 2009, 05:59:09 AM »

I think your more likely to break your wallet way before you break the reciever on a handi...

petemi · « **Reply #13 on:** April 29, 2009, 06:25:07 AM »

All my barrels are on dedicated frames. I'm 68 and doubt if I could live long enough to wear any of them out.

Pete

canon6 · « **Reply #14 on:** April 29, 2009, 07:22:15 AM »

I do not know if "it is possible" to wear a Handi out,but I bought my first in 1973.It was a 45-70, it is on a ranch in Cody Wy and still being used.I have no idea how much meat it has put on the table, but it is bunch. just my2c Doug

tykempster · « **Reply #15 on:** April 29, 2009, 11:05:19 AM »

Dang Pete didn't know you were so ancient!

quickdtoo · « **Reply #16 on:** April 29, 2009, 11:07:10 AM »

Quote from: tykempster on April 29, 2009, 11:05:19 AM

Dang Pete didn't know you were so ~~ancient~~ mature!

Rustyinfla · « **Reply #17 on:** April 29, 2009, 12:06:55 PM »

You might wear out a barrel. Some of the hi intensity cartridges would be more likely. .223, .243, .270, .30-06. might suffer from throat erosion after many, many rounds of max. pressure loads. I don't think you could wear out the actual frame. Maybe some of the guys shooting .45-120's loaded to the max would have a better chance of it than anybody.

petemi · « **Reply #18 on:** April 29, 2009, 12:52:40 PM »

Tim, thanks for the buffer.

Pete

dpe.ahoy · « **Reply #19 on:** April 29, 2009, 01:44:24 PM »

Must be that 45-120 thing makin' tyke a bit surly

. Next thing ya know that nice young man, Richard will have some kind a smart-aliky come back too.

I tell ya, what's this world a comin to?

Richard, are ya there?

DP

quickdtoo · « **Reply #20 on:** April 29, 2009, 01:52:39 PM »

Yer welcome Pete, I'ma gettin there too, ya know!!

Tim

maglvr44 · « **Reply #21 on:** April 29, 2009, 06:06:49 PM »

Quote from: reno2507 on April 28, 2009, 08:06:50 PM

Rocks make sand...

Which is nothing more than very small rocks

MrJames680 · « **Reply #22 on:** April 29, 2009, 06:46:51 PM »

Wow,
Thanks for all the input!

So, I have .243 Win Handi, do the 243 throats wear down that fast?

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.223, .243, .270, .30-06. might suffer from throat erosion after many, many rounds of max. pressure loads. I don't think you could wear out the actual frame.

Would some one dare put a number on what many, many maximum pressure loads is till accuracy start to fail?

a4beltfed2000 · « **Reply #23 on:** April 30, 2009, 01:54:02 AM »

Thanks for the imput everyone! I would think that even high pressures would take along while before throat erosion would be noticable. I guess what I was more concerned with was the lock up with the frame, as could see that being the weak point.

As far as barrel erosion, that I have experience with. In the browning 1919 308/3006 barrels, we usually get 12/15 thousand rounds out of a barrel (with moderate/fairly heavy use) before they the reach max headspacing.

On the 8mm barrels which is a brand new 4140 Chrome lined barrel, have lasted for 15/20 thousand rounds with heavy use. However just strait full abuse, they can wear in as little as 5 thousand rounds ( we dumped a 1100 round belt through a 1919a4 in 2 minutes and it changed the headspacing y almost .006 in two minutes.

Now if someone here can put that kind of rounds through their handirifle, not only would l like to see it, but I would supply the ammo.

kf4ocv · « **Reply #24 on:** April 30, 2009, 03:36:05 AM »

I really enjoyed reading all of your comments.

wreckhog · « **Reply #25 on:** April 30, 2009, 04:10:33 AM »

Wearing out means different things to different people. In the miltary it is possible kaboom and likely missing a torso at 100 yards. For bench shooters it means that competing is a waste of time/money. Those guys replace a .243 barrel at 1500 rounds. .308 is considered long lived at 5000 rounds, which makes it cost effective for snipers around the world.

Singleshotsam · « **Reply #26 on:** April 30, 2009, 05:28:57 AM »

You can't really give a specific round count to the .243 or any caliber for that matter.

You'll know its time to replace the bbl when the gun starts to lose consistant accuracy. So if your personal standard is 0.5 moa @ 100 yards and your guns starts to loosen up to a consistant 0.75 moa then for you it might be time to replace it. For somebody else their personal standard might hold 1moa @ 100 yards. Then it is fine for quite a while longer.

MrJames680 · « **Reply #27 on:** April 30, 2009, 05:50:14 AM »

Thank you all for the input.
Its the personal experience type of advice I really like to get.
Thanks again!