Since there are two levels of "Trapdoorloads" - be careful. Some manuals consider 28,000 cup to be safe, others limit it to 21,000 or 18,000 cup. Personally the latter is usually plenty from a recoil perspective in the Contender, even a rifle is pretty lightweight. My .45-70 ported carbine has laminated stocks so is about as heavy as you'd normally carry, but top Hodgdon Trapdoor loads are more than I want to shoot off the bench. I'm no pansy when it comes to recoil, but a 400-grain bullet at 1650 fps in a very light carbine is more fun than I want as a standard load.
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