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Offline michauxii

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300gr. Nosler Partition.. Penetration on larger animals?? (.45-70)
« on: January 12, 2009, 12:10:42 PM »
I've taken a dozen or so game animals with the Nosler. Nothing tremendously large.. couple a 300# hogs and several deer.

Never recovered a bullet; secondary projectiles yes, main projectile, no.

Just wondering if anyone has penetration stories on larger game.. elk,bear,moose etc.
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Re: 300gr. Nosler Partition.. Penetration on larger animals??
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2009, 12:28:33 PM »
What caliber?

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Re: 300gr. Nosler Partition.. Penetration on larger animals??
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2009, 12:54:31 PM »
Sorry! My error.. I was thinking that the only 300gr Partition Nosler makes is in 45 caliber, but I forgot about the 375 caliber.

But the question relates to bullets for the .45-70,thanks!
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Re: 300gr. Nosler Partition.. Penetration on larger animals?? (.45-70)
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2009, 07:29:19 AM »
What do you mean with "secondary projectiles"?
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Re: 300gr. Nosler Partition.. Penetration on larger animals?? (.45-70)
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2009, 08:33:36 AM »
Quote from: RPzB on January 13, 2009, 07:29:19 AM
What do you mean with "secondary projectiles"?

I've had the "nose" of this bullet break into numerous pieces; especially when it hits solid,large bone. The rear shank of the partition continues to plow through.

These "secondary projectiles" from the upper portion of the bullet can inflict damage to the heart,lungs or where ever they end up, but they can also be found in some of the muscle I was planning to eat.

It's not nearly as bad as some of the lighter weight jacketed bullets, but it does happen.
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Re: 300gr. Nosler Partition.. Penetration on larger animals?? (.45-70)
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2009, 12:39:01 PM »
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 Honestly with the low velocity even the hot loads of the 45-70 Govt, I don't see much need for a partition bullet. Hdy 350 RN and FN as well as Speer's 350 gr. won't fall apart.
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Re: 300gr. Nosler Partition.. Penetration on larger animals?? (.45-70)
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2009, 01:06:40 AM »
Quote from: RPzB on January 13, 2009, 12:39:01 PM
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 Honestly with the low velocity even the hot loads of the 45-70 Govt, I don't see much need for a partition bullet. Hdy 350 RN and FN as well as Speer's 350 gr. won't fall apart.

That's a pretty safe bet I'd say. I believe all the various 350s are made for use in the .458 Winchester and .458 Lott primarily so the .45-70 sure shouldn't tax them. Except for maybe use on dangerous game I personally think the various 400s like the Remington are proper choices and a good hard cast of that weight is always a good choice no matter the game.
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Re: 300gr. Nosler Partition.. Penetration on larger animals?? (.45-70)
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2009, 09:44:21 AM »
Quote from: Graybeard on January 14, 2009, 01:06:40 AM
Quote from: RPzB on January 13, 2009, 12:39:01 PM
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 Honestly with the low velocity even the hot loads of the 45-70 Govt, I don't see much need for a partition bullet. Hdy 350 RN and FN as well as Speer's 350 gr. won't fall apart.

That's a pretty safe bet I'd say. I believe all the various 350s are made for use in the .458 Winchester and .458 Lott primarily so the .45-70 sure shouldn't tax them. Except for maybe use on dangerous game I personally think the various 400s like the Remington are proper choices and a good hard cast of that weight is always a good choice no matter the game.

I agree 100%. All I use are Rem 405 gr SP and 405 Gr. lead .Plenty of penetration and they stay together all the way through the critter.
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Re: 300gr. Nosler Partition.. Penetration on larger animals?? (.45-70)
« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2009, 01:12:37 AM »
Well, let's see now....I've taken about 15 or so critters with the 300 gr. nosler partition, albeit in a Marlin .45-70 GG.  I started out using the Win. Supreme factory load, and when I wasn't able to get any more, I started handloading it with H4198.  Penetration is awesome!  I have sot end to end thru several critters.  I took the load and gun to south africa last year, for my plains game safari.  I shot 7 animals with it, and the bullet performed flawlessly.  Size wise, the upper end animals were 450-700+ lbs.  Here are some pics of the biggest critters, and 1 pic of the ONLY recovered noslers I have ever gotten.



kudu, about the size of avg. bull elk.



blue wildebeast



zebra.  probably the toughest animal I have ever shot.



gemsbok.  one tough hombre!



the only noslers I have ever recovered.  all the rest were passthroughs.  For my money, the 300 gr. nosler partition is one of the best bullets you can use on game, other than big/dangerous game.

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Re: 300gr. Nosler Partition.. Penetration on larger animals?? (.45-70)
« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2009, 10:33:42 AM »
Mad Dog: No arguement from me on the Nosler. As stated before I believe other
 (not all) brands would perform just as well.
 I would like to see a Nosler PT  in the 350 to 400 gr. range that is designed to expand at mid level  45-70 gr. velocities.
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Re: 300gr. Nosler Partition.. Penetration on larger animals?? (.45-70)
« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2009, 11:49:06 PM »
RP,  agreed.  I'd like to se a 400 gr. nosler partition for the .45-70! ;D

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