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Offline Smokem

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Ruger Redhawk...
« on: September 25, 2008, 02:52:25 AM »
Anyone here know if the new Ruger Redhawk KRH-45-4 is ok to fire 45 Colt +P rounds (I.E. CorBon Hunting type)? For that matter will any of the NEW Rugers handle those loads?
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Re: Ruger Redhawk...
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2008, 09:21:48 AM »
I have the original 7.5" redhawk in 45 colt that was discontinued in 2004. The Redhawk is hell for stout and will handle the +P's for many years without a wimper.

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Re: Ruger Redhawk...
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2008, 10:43:49 PM »
 I have a redhawk cut to 3" by Gary Reeder, and I shoot the grizzly 300grn's ,,,
lots of boom and not for the recoil shy ...

 It was suggested I not shoot over the 300grn rounds and I'm happy with
that .. so you shouldn't have any problems with your's ..

http://www.grizzlycartridge.com/-strse-18/45-Colt-pls-P--300/Detail.bok
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http://www.grizzlycartridge.com/-strse-20/45-Colt-pls-P-300-Grain/Detail.bok

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Re: Ruger Redhawk...
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2008, 02:42:50 AM »
id have to ask why anyone told you you cant use bullets over 300 grain. The redhawk is a very stout gun and will take loads that leave a 45 blackhawk in the dust. About the only limiting factor is how much recoil you can handle. th
I have a redhawk cut to 3" by Gary Reeder, and I shoot the grizzly 300grn's ,,,
lots of boom and not for the recoil shy ...

 It was suggested I not shoot over the 300grn rounds and I'm happy with
that .. so you shouldn't have any problems with your's ..

http://www.grizzlycartridge.com/-strse-18/45-Colt-pls-P--300/Detail.bok
 and
http://www.grizzlycartridge.com/-strse-20/45-Colt-pls-P-300-Grain/Detail.bok

and my baby is here :-)

http://reedercustomguns.com/revolvers/alaskan_Survival.htm 

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Re: Ruger Redhawk...
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2008, 01:31:36 PM »
id have to ask why anyone told you you cant use bullets over 300 grain. The redhawk is a very stout gun and will take loads that leave a 45 blackhawk in the dust. About the only limiting factor is how much recoil you can handle. quote]

 sorry I didn't back to this before now :-(

 the reason wasn't due to the strength of the redhawk but the 300+ bullets are designed for
the 454 and wouldn't give full performance @ lower velocity. especially with mine being a
3" barrel. I'm in the 1100fps or less, range with max loads from grizzly @ 300grn

 the heavier bullets work better @ 1400 + fps ...

 at least that's how I remember the conversation went ..

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Re: Ruger Redhawk...
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2008, 04:51:01 AM »
maybe if a guy is shooting jacketed hps expansion might not happen but just about anyone shooting 300 plus grain bullets out of a 44 is shooting cast and i can easily push a 320 lfn to 1200 fps out of my 3 inch redhawk. I load that load in a bisley blackhawk and its right on the edge of extraction problems so it is a max load in blackhawk but a redhawk will take a little more and i know i could get that velocity out of a 3 inch gun with a tad more powder. Plus the redhawks will take bullets that are seated out farther so a bullet like my 320 lfn can be seated out in the second crimp grove and i know loaded like that it could easily make 1200 fps. Does it help to go heavier then 300? maybe not much as a 300 grain 44 at 1100 fps will do alot of killing but ill say this. I took that that load to one of the linebaugh seminars and it did pretty good in the pentration tests..
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Re: Ruger Redhawk...
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2008, 04:54:10 AM »
look at this penetration test http://www.handloads.com/misc/linebaugh.penetration.tests.asp bullet was listed as a 340 but it actually cast out at 330 using 5050 lino/ww  They got over 1300 fps on there chrono but mine will usually clock them at about 1250. I guess my point here is the redhawk is definetly capable of safely shooting bullets heavier then 300 grain at respectable velocitys. Look closely at the data. They did one shot each on wet paper and then a sholder bone followed by wet paper. My first shot dove and turned on just the paper. The target was getting beat up and full of holes and i think thats what cause it. They then changed out the wet print and my bone and paper shot was into a fresh target. there wasnt to many guns there that beat it out in the bone paper test. Now i can see a problem with alot of bullets heavier then 300 in a blackhawk as alot of them are just to long in the nose for that cylinder but not in the redhawk. As a matter of fact if you look at bufflalo bore ammo they will tell you that there heavy bullet loads are only for a redhawk because they will take longer bullets and heavier loads. Here is a link to buffalo bore and there 340 load using the same bullet as i do is going almost 1500 fps!!! http://www.buffalobore.com/ammunition/default.htm#44P
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Re: Ruger Redhawk...
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2008, 01:11:02 PM »
I expect and get expansion from my 240 JHPs over a max charge of H110/W296 even to 100 yards tho there it's not much expansion. I don't get or expect expansion from the 300s but over 25 yards. If ya need more than 240 grains go with cast.


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Re: Ruger Redhawk...
« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2008, 10:20:23 PM »
what is the concern about expansion? It IS a .429 after all!
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Re: Ruger Redhawk...
« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2008, 03:11:07 PM »
I think I read somewhere on the Buffalo site the reason was because of the way the short barrel recoils, there is a chance that the bullet will jump crimp.  Don't have time to look it up.  It wasn't because of a strength issue or bullet performance.

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Re: Ruger Redhawk...
« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2008, 03:23:09 PM »
Anyone here know if the new Ruger Redhawk KRH-45-4 is ok to fire 45 Colt +P rounds (I.E. CorBon Hunting type)? For that matter will any of the NEW Rugers handle those loads?

 I know that this is in the double-action section, but you asked if 'any of the New Rugers will handle those loads?'  The 'New Model Vaquero' will not handle the heavy 45colt loads.
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