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Offline GURU

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.35 WHELN LOAD DATA
« on: October 27, 2008, 04:59:28 AM »
anyone using the 200 grain barnes in the .35 whelen? if so which powder?
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Re: .35 WHELN LOAD DATA
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2008, 05:10:52 AM »
I've only worked with the 225gr TSX, but I'd go with their best accuracy powder, RL15, it works well with the 225gr too. ;)

Tim

http://www.barnesbullets.com/images/35WhelenWeb.pdf

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Re: .35 WHELN LOAD DATA
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2008, 05:30:03 AM »
i tried the 225 accubonds & 56grains of reloader 15  & i tried  factory remington 200 core lokt. the remingtons that didnt misfire ( 8 out of 20 did) grouped a little better than my handloads. so im thinking it might like lighter bullets better . i posted last week about misfires with factory ammo so i guess i will just live with it and  just use neck sized fireformed brass. i also had ejector troubles, do you know if the ejector is the same in all handis? if they are i was going to swap ejectors from another gun & see if it helps
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Re: .35 WHELN LOAD DATA
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2008, 05:48:05 AM »
Does the brass stick and fail to eject, or does the ejector miss the rim? If it's sticking, use the ejector tune info in the FAQs, basically, install a BB ahead of the spring, polish the ejector claw and housing, and polish the chamber. Make sure the chamber is clean and dry, the ammo the same, no case lube on it. The alternative is to convert it to an extractor, see FAQs for that also, your smith should be able to do that, I do my own on a drill press.

I've shot 230gr Failsafes(H414) and 250gr Speer spitzers(BL-C2) in my RMEF, both shot 1" 100yd 3-shot groups.

Tim
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Re: .35 WHELN LOAD DATA
« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2008, 05:53:20 AM »
it misses the rim sometimes. i took it apart & cleaned and polished it . i thought maybe the spring that pushes it up was broken but it looked ok.
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Re: .35 WHELN LOAD DATA
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2008, 05:58:39 AM »
Is the lift button in there? If so, you might try stretching the spring a little longer or just replace it, Brownell's carries both.

Tim

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Re: .35 WHELN LOAD DATA
« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2008, 07:02:16 AM »
i already tried that , i took the ejector , spring & lift button out of my .243 and put it in my .35 and put my whelen parts back in the .243 and they both eject fine . you can feel the case drag against the ejector on the .243 and its loose on the .35 like the ejector still needs to have a little more pressure on it. talked to the gunsmith about the misfires and he said he could put a new trigger back in it to put the trigger back to stock but he didnt think it would help. he said he has a couple rmef .35 whelens at his shop for misfires . they have headspace problems like the 2006 models had., and he is sending them back for replacement barrels of differant calibers.
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Re: .35 WHELN LOAD DATA
« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2008, 07:11:59 AM »
They might have cut the ejector a little too short, you can order a new ejector from Brownell's.  ;)

Tim

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Re: .35 WHELN LOAD DATA
« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2008, 07:22:44 AM »
just order a spring, lift button & ejector . i hope this fixes it . and i guess its going to be a handload only gun.
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Re: .35 WHELN LOAD DATA
« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2008, 07:27:48 AM »
Once you're fire formed, it's a piece of cake. I've only had problems with a few pieces of Rem brass in mine, all the rest have worked fine, have never used factory ammo tho. Personally I think it's a Remington component issue compounded by loose specs in the Whelen since all of the brass I've used except those 7 pieces have worked fine.

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Re: .35 WHELN LOAD DATA
« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2008, 08:26:20 AM »
all ive been able to find is remington brass and it sure seems loose in the chamber
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Re: .35 WHELN LOAD DATA
« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2008, 08:53:53 AM »
I think if I was having the no-fire problem, I'd convert it to an extractor and add a shim to the front of the extractor post so it holds the case against the standing breech, that worked well on my SS 45-70, it would sure beat loosing the 35 Whelen barrel to an alternative chambering. Then factory ammo could be used in it too.  ;)

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Re: .35 WHELN LOAD DATA
« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2008, 09:56:53 AM »
how do i convert it?
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Re: .35 WHELN LOAD DATA
« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2008, 10:13:26 AM »
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Re: .35 WHELN LOAD DATA
« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2008, 10:32:12 AM »
i saw how to convert to the ejector to an extractor that looks easy . where are you talking about adding some material to keep the brass up tight? or did you mean i need to replace with a factory extractor then add to it
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Re: .35 WHELN LOAD DATA
« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2008, 10:42:50 AM »
The ejector to factory extractor conversion isn't so easy, the temp and permanent conversions which are easy just make it a spring extractor which isn't positive, if brass sticks, it won't help any. A factory extractor is always engaged behind the rim, so it can also hold the round against the breech face by simply thinning the ejector post slightly, then adding a shim on the front side of it that will keep the round from going too far into the chamber, just as seating a bullet into the lands holds the round against the breech face. See EJECTOR TO FACTORY EXTRACTOR CONVERSION, it's just below the 2nd generation underlug pic.

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Re: .35 WHELN LOAD DATA
« Reply #16 on: October 28, 2008, 12:49:59 AM »
BACK TO LOAD DATA....... ::) ;D

 I have found excellent results in my Custom Mauser using AA2520 powder and Hornady's 200gr spire point bullet. Shoots almost one hole, chronos about 2900fps (27" bbl) and kills like Thors hammer.

When I feel I need a heavier bullet, I like the good old 250 Speer and IMR4320 powder.

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Re: .35 WHELN LOAD DATA
« Reply #17 on: October 28, 2008, 03:54:31 AM »
loaded some barnes 200 tsx with 56 grains of reloader 15 last night . i hope they group a little better than the 225 grain accubonds ive been shooting
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