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Offline mattt

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Reloading 4570 leverution brass
« on: October 14, 2008, 02:46:39 PM »
I have alot of this brass and want to reload it with lead bullits for my BC. Is there a problem with th case being shorter and reloading it? I would hate to not us the couple hundred cases I have saved.
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Re: Reloading 4570 leverution brass
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2008, 02:49:52 PM »
Other than having to adjust the seating die, what would be the problem?  Plenty of room for powder and the 45-70 has a short throat anyway.  DP
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Re: Reloading 4570 leverution brass
« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2008, 02:53:38 PM »
I read somewhere there was issues with it I agree with you but I have only been reloading for a couple weeks and being cautious thanks
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Re: Reloading 4570 leverution brass
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2008, 02:55:13 PM »
Go back some pages. This was discussed before and the word was stay away from 45/70 lever there brass.


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Re: Reloading 4570 leverution brass
« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2008, 03:04:48 PM »
If you don't mix the brass, should have no problem.  And if I had only the short brass, I would load and not worry about it other than adjusting for less powder capacity and that shouldn't be a problem until getting close to max loads.  DP
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Re: Reloading 4570 leverution brass
« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2008, 03:24:33 PM »
I think the only problem will be if you have to crimp, if you don't crimp it's not an issue, but if you load using a shorter COL than recommended so you can crimp in a cannelure, the shorter COL will increase pressure for any given load, but if you're working with trapdoor loads, that would be a moot point as the Handi can work well into the Ruger level with no problems if your body can handle it!!! ;D If you load to recommended COL and don't crimp, it won't matter. ;) This is where the Lee Factory Crimp die shines, no cannelure is needed to crimp. ;)

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Re: Reloading 4570 leverution brass
« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2008, 03:32:35 PM »
I would be using trail boss which is low velocity .These rounds will be for shooting paper and I am tired of a sore shoulder.Dont know what a canalure is but I am using a hornady press and  new dimention hrnady dies.
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Re: Reloading 4570 leverution brass
« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2008, 03:55:07 PM »
A cannelure is the groove in bullets that the mouth of the case is crimped into to prevent the bullet from moving due to recoil or magazine pressure in tubular magazines, a cannelure technically applies to jacketed bullets, in cast bullets it would be called a crimp groove.  ;)

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Re: Reloading 4570 leverution brass
« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2008, 03:57:22 PM »
And in a single shot with Trail boss, shouldn't need a crimp.  DP
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Re: Reloading 4570 leverution brass
« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2008, 04:02:28 PM »
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Re: Reloading 4570 leverution brass
« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2008, 04:03:24 PM »
So you're fine!  ;)
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Re: Reloading 4570 leverution brass
« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2008, 04:04:30 PM »
That would be the wrong smiley...
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Re: Reloading 4570 leverution brass
« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2008, 04:05:36 PM »
Quote from: tykempster on October 14, 2008, 04:04:30 PM
That would be the wrong smiley...

Not any more!! ;D
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Re: Reloading 4570 leverution brass
« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2008, 04:06:54 PM »
don't reduce the COL on any load with it.  I've loaded some with Pyrodex and shot lead and trailboss should perform about the same, but with other smokless powders reduced case space could make for very high pressures.  Seating the bullet even a "small" amount deeper could make for a lot of pressure and damage the firearm or (worse) the shooter. Another problem I encountered with the (only) box I bought was that the cases were smaller in diameter than standard and developed a ring at the base from expansion.  I only used them to load collar buttons (150 gr) to use just to practice my short range technique when I forst got my BC.  I bought several hundred cases from TOTW in Starline and much prefer to load these with BP and subs, would think Trailboss would do well.
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