Buffalo bore 340 gr+P+ 44 mag?

[mattt]

Just orderd some of these from cabelas for my 629 44 mag and then looked them up on buffalo bores web site. Cabelas says safe for any smith wesson made after 1989 but buffalos site says will only work with certain ruger models because they are to long for the most cylnders.Has anyone shot these out of a sw 44? The ballistics are insane on these so I had to try these 1475 and 1649ME that is cloes to some of my 500 mag loads.

[Ak.Hiker]

In my Ruger Super Blackhawk the Buffalo Bore 305 grain cast load is a good bear protection load. The 340 grain is much hotter. Closer to a 454 and not a good choice for a S&W 44 Magnum. I think the 340 is loaded long and designed for heavier guns like the the Ruger Super Redhawk. When I had a Ruger Redhawk I at times would run some pretty hot 320 grain cast loads through the gun. Loads I would not want to shoot in the Blackhawk or a Smith. I would sell the 340 grain loads off to someone that has a Super Redhawk and try the 255 grain BB Keith loads. If you are looking for a heavy weight load for the Smith&Wesson check out the Federal 300 grain CastCore. 

[mattt]

Ak.hiker Do you think this stuff will damage a 629 44 or just be paiful in the recoil department.The manufacturer lists a ruger vacaro as ok for these rounds so is cylinder length the only difference because I dont think that model ruger is better then the smth. I dont plan on shooting alot of these but I dont want to damage my gun or myself.  Thanks for the  input

[Graybeard]

To be quite blunt what you THINK is immaterial. All that matters is what REALLY IS. It is a given that S&W 29s and 629s will not take a steady diet of the max loads some folks use in the Ruger SBH. Part of that is in the fact a single action by it's nature of design is a bit stronger than is a double action design. That swing out cylinder is a little weaker of a design than the way the SA works.

But the single biggest problem with using that load in the S&W I think you'll find is the over all length of the round. I'm pretty sure (no not 100% positive) that it will not physically chamber in a S&W 29 or 629. It's just too long for the cylinder to chamber and still rotate.

Will it blow up a S&W should you find it will fit? Probably not but it is clearly NOT intended for it and when the manufacturer tells you it is not intended for it to use it in one is rather a foolish endeavor in my opinion.

I've found several factory loads that just plain will not fit into the S&W guns as their cylinders are a bit short compared to the Ruger guns. I've also found some that were said to be too long that in fact did fit also. But when an ammo maker tells you his ammo is not for a S&W to use it in one even if it fits is just not the smartest move a fellow could make.

[Ak.Hiker]

I would follow Graybeards advice on this one. Even if they would fit their is no need to subject a fine S&W revolver to such a heavy load.

[mattt]

Just got off the phone with cabelas and after talking to 3 poeple they agreed the product add was incorect and will send me a refund since the order was already shipped. Thanks for the input now I need to find someone at my local gunclub that can use the ammo in there ruger.

[Graybeard]

The stuff is really good if ya feel the need for that much power from a .44 Magnum is the FA83, Ruger SRH and even the Redhawk in addition to the SBH. I think it should fit all of those and all are strong enough for it. If it will chamber it should do fine in most any .44 Magnum rifle as well.

[mattt]

The only reason I bought it was because I shoot the buffalo bore in my smith wesson 500 mag and was ipressed with it so when I saw the 340+p I was curios. It would have been painfull to shoot even if it would have worked for my 44. . I love my 500 so much I rarely shoot my 44 anymore anyway.thanks

[Cottonwood]

The 305-gr WFN GC load will chamber in the 29 - 629's as I still have some of those very same bullets loaded up on my brass.  BUT, I will not be shooting these heavy loads out of my 629 as they are not as strong as Rugers period.  If you get into reloading you can shoot these at a moderate fps say around 1200 and still take down the wildest beast north america has to offer.
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My loads for the Ruger were pushing 1288 fps out of a 4 5/8ths barrel, but I'm not going to push this out of a S&W 629 6" barrel, you really don't need to.

Here is a link to: http://www.buffalobore.com/ammunition/default.htm

Check the ammo selection for the .44 Magnum...

340 gr. LBT-LFN GC . (1478 fps / M.E. 1649 ft. lbs.)


NEW HEAVY 44 MAGNUM +P+ 

This new load is designed for only certain revolvers that have the cylinder length to handle it. They are as follows. Ruger Red Hawk, Ruger Super Red Hawk, Ruger Super Blackhawk or Vaquero, Freedom Arms Model 83, Taurus Raging Bull and Dan Wesson Revolvers. Suitable rifles include T/C Encore, "modified" Marlin 1894, Winchester 1894, any rifle with a falling block action and the Handi Rifle.

   

I really doubt if you will be able to chamber these in a 29/629.

[mattt]

Montanan did you not read the entire post or you one of those people with 2 mouths and 1 ear. I dont need a link to buffalo bore because that is where I learned there was a problem with there ammo in my gun in the first place. And yes it chambered no problem in a 629 but I will not use it in one.

[Cottonwood]

Montanan did you not read the entire post or you one of those people with 2 mouths and 1 ear. I dont need a link to buffalo bore because that is where I learned there was a problem with there ammo in my gun in the first place. And yes it chambered no problem in a 629 but I will not use it in one.

You know what Matt, we come on here to try and help you, if you don't like the responses then don't post.  The Buffalo Bore ammo you sellected for your 629 could damage it.  Its your gun smart guy.

[warrior1]

it is sunday night in the bleachers and it is time for my out of this world question.
is it possible to generate enough steam using this bullet in a 44 special case in a smith to cleanly take a whitetail  , a mulie or even a elk.? dan

[mattt]

Montanan sorry for my responce. It was in the general hangun forun where I went into more detail about these rounds chambering fine. Anyway i gave them to a guy at the gun club with a ruger thanks for your input

[Cottonwood]

Matt that is okay, no problem.

As they say in Hawaii

Aloha Bra

[Ironworker]

I have a Colt Anaconda. Will those 340 gr bullets be ok in mine? Currently I'm loading 21grs of H110 behind a 325 gr Bear tooth bullet with Star Line brass. No ejection problems and tight groups at 30 yards. But the recoil is tremendous .

[45-70.gov]

will  this  round  be  safe  in  an sb1/h&r?    is  this  the   wrong  place  to  ask?