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Offline 45/70fan

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Savage 24V
« on: November 28, 2007, 06:59:11 AM »
I stopped by a local pawn shop today looking for a deal. They had a 222 Rem over 20ga for $400. The bores appear good but the bluing on both barrels looks like it was taken off with steel wool. The stock and forearm were ok considering the age and assuming it had been hunted with regularly. I offered him $200, he didn't counter offer, but asked if I realized what the caliber was. I said yes I know it's rare, but the gun is gun is pretty rough looking.
So my question to ya'll is what do you think it's worth.
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Re: Savage 24V
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2007, 05:21:07 AM »
$250-300 max, in that condition - but I wouldn't even buy it with scroungy bluing - unless I just hadda have a V.
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Re: Savage 24V
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2007, 02:37:28 AM »
$400 is too much in that condition.  I agree with Rangr44 for $250-$300 if you were just buying it as a shooter.  Check out the rifling, if it is OK, bump your bid up to $250 and go to $300 max.
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Re: Savage 24V
« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2008, 05:58:10 PM »
OK guys, if I can jump on this thread I just found and purchased a Savage 24V in .357 Mag over a 20 gauge (full choke according to the measurement) and am thinking of it as a deer and coyote gun. It is in in pretty darn good shape with most of the bluing in great shape and the color on the receiver is in good shape also, no rust at all on the gun. The wood is all good with a couple of scratches and the bores are great. It used to belong to an oldtimer in Maine who shot a few deer with it but traded it for another Savage 24 in 30-30 over a 12. The question is what is it worth, and without me telling you what I paid what would you think it would go for? Also, I am considering reaming it out to a .357 Maximum, any thoughts on that?...Thanks....<><....:)
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Re: Savage 24V
« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2008, 12:43:16 AM »
A used gun's worth is relative. It depends on the market area and how badly you want that particular gun. If you are looking for any 24V, then you can probably get one cheaper than that in the same condition. If you are a collector of these and you need this combination to fill out your collection, then $400 is probably a steal. If you really have your heart set on a 222/20ga you probably will not find it any where else at any price. How bad do you want this particular gun will determine what you want to pay. If you do not care and you are just looking for a shooter, you can find one cheaper than $400. Heck you can buy a brand new rifle or shotgun for less than that. If you go for single shot break opens you can get both brand spanking new for $400, but they will not be a 24V. Just my 2 cents
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Re: Savage 24V
« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2008, 01:15:12 AM »
Thanks for the reply LaOtto222, were you were responding to the question posted by 45/70fan about his .222/20 or about my .357/20? With the numbers (222) in your screen name it looks as if you may have been responding to him. Do you have any feelings on the .357/20 combo of mine? Also any thoughts about reaming it to .357 Max?...Thanks for your time and help....<><....:)
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Re: Savage 24V
« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2008, 02:54:22 AM »
I have an opportunity to buy a .357/20 in very good condition for $325.  The only thing stopping me is $.
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Re: Savage 24V
« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2008, 05:35:20 AM »
MSP Ret - The price you paid for it again depends on how bad you want it. If you did not want it very badly and you paid $250 I think you made a deal. If you wanted it badly and you pay $400 then I still think you made a good deal. They do not make them any more, so you have to get what you can where you can. That is just my opinion. Buying a used gun is like buying a used car. To one guy $100,000 for a 1963 Corvette split window coupe is a steal, but to the next it is not worth near that. As far as reaming to a 357 MAX, I think that you could do it and be safe. There are other high pressure rounds they were chambered for. Just follow safe reloading practices when you develop a load for it. Watching for pressure signs, sticky cases and case stretching ;) Good Luck and good shooting.
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Re: Savage 24V
« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2008, 06:06:24 AM »
Here is some info for you 24V folks

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=58549
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Re: Savage 24V
« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2008, 06:20:44 AM »
45/70,
     If I can jump in here, I'd say the 222 you mention, in that condition isn't even worth the $200 you offered. The .222 was the first centerfire Savage 24V ever produced, having first been produced in 1967, and they were made every year until 1988 or so, when Savage went into Chapter 11 and was only producing the 110 bolt action as they reorganized. So needless to say, the 222 is very common, despite the 24V's having not being made for a while now. The reason people think it's rare, is because in the 'Blue Book', there is an error stating that it was only produced in 1967, when it should say 'was first produced in 1967'. Frankly, if you look on Gunbroker, the 222's are a dime a dozen, and despite some  dealers believing that Blue Book claim, it's not hard to find a Savage 24V in 222 over 20 for $400/$450 in pristine condition. I have half a dozen of them in 222, all pristine, which one do you want, LOL.

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  Now, the 24V in 357 over 20, is a horse of a different color. Highly prized as a truck gun in many parts of the country, a 357 Mag or 357 MAX will fetch considerably more. The last pristine 357 Mag I saw on Gunbroker about a year ago, sold for $751. Likewise, the last pristine 357 MAX I saw sell there, also about a year ago, had an opening bid of $1000, and sold for $1200. These were pristine guns mind you, I've also seen some in not so pristine condition offered on Gunbroker starting at anywhere from $600 to $800 not even get a bid in a 10 day auction, a LOT depends on the condition of the gun, obviously. The 24V in 357 Mag was first produced in 1979, and was produced for about 4 years, so they are much harder to come by, therefore increased value. The 357 MAX was only made for a year or two and is much harder to come by than a 357 Mag.

     I actually think the rarest 24V(caliberwise), is the .22 Hornet. Fisrt produced in 1980, and I believe, made till 1987 or so, they didn't seem very popular with the buying public, and they are extremely hard to come by, in any condition. While I have every centerfire caliber that the 24V was made in(except .22 Hornet), the .22 Hornet still eludes me.

     Just my personal thoughts and opinions, hope it helps.
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Re: Savage 24V
« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2008, 10:32:11 AM »
Thanks for everything guys, and wink man, I will keep my eyes open for a Model 24 in .22 Hornet for you....<><....:)
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Re: Savage 24V
« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2008, 02:11:23 PM »
woodchukhntr, That seems like a good price for the .357/20 buddy. If you can, I suggest you save up the money or put it on lay-away and get it....<><....:)
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Re: Savage 24V
« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2008, 08:11:08 AM »
I did some round-about trading and ended up with the .357/20 ga.  Now all I have to do is get a Weaver #74 base for a scope or red dot.
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Re: Savage 24V
« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2008, 02:57:32 AM »
    Interesting post!  I picked up a 24v 22/410 as a squirrel gun a few years back. It was in fair condition so I gave the guy $75.   ;D
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Re: Savage 24V
« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2008, 04:04:48 AM »
Quote from: MSP Ret on April 02, 2008, 10:32:11 AM
Thanks for everything guys, and wink man, I will keep my eyes open for a Model 24 in .22 Hornet for you....<><....:)

I paid much more for a 22 Hornet over 20 ga. and have no need for a 357/20/12 just throw me in that Brier patch and see if I buy one. It want take much rubbing my nose in it to change my mind. Ever since I was a kid I have had a love affair with Over Under rifle shotguns.

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