JBH45 25-06 Ultra is not to be.

[Fred M]

Posted: Tues. Apr 20, 2004 10:51 am    Post subject: JBH45 The H&R Ultra 25-06 is not to be.    

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Hi JBH45.
After waiting for over 4 month for this rifle and no confirmation date when it may arrive i have looked in other directions. Today at a big gun show I found a very nice Ruger #1 in 25-06 for only 200 bucks more than the new Ultra H&R.

The rifle has beautyful wood and close to 100% blueing. It is an older model with the adjustable trigger. From what I can tell it saw very little shooting. The forearm has shrunk a bit and has some latteral play.

This rifle only needs a good tune/clean up and some serious hand loads. The good thing about this rifle is that if it needed a new barrel it would still be less than a new rifle.

My 25 Hunter will be sitting on the side lines for a while until the smoke clears around the Ruger#1. Was gone for two month and just got home a few days ago. Fred M.

[handirifle]

Hey Fred, I was up in your land a week and a half ago.  We stayed 3 nights in the Ontario side of Niagra Falls.  You have some friendly folks up there.

[Fred M]

Handirifle.
You been in nice country in Niagara Falls. I am about 2000 miles west of there.

The 25-06 Ruger #1 has seen very little use but hope to use it this fall if I get an Antelope draw. This turned out to be one super accurate rifle after I done
tweeking it. I have since acquired several more #1 and a #3 in 375Win.
It too is a very accurate.

Three shot group with 100gr TSX Barnes at 100 yards. I killed a couple of deer
with them bullets Vel is 3430 mvft with the 26" barrel.

[dpe.ahoy]

Fred, sorry about the Ultra not coming thru for you.  I like mine, but need to get it out more.  That #3 sounds like a real winner.  375 and the 38-55 are under rated for game IMO.  Hope you're back to 100% health-wise.  DP.

[Fred M]

dpe.ahoy.
Yes the 375 Win is quite the rifle and is good to 250 yards. It shoots only
a few inches low when sighted in a 200. Recently I shot a group at 250 yards
measuring 1-3/4". I don't have any experience with 38-55 but it too has plenty of power for most game.

I am getting better healthwise this infection toke a lot out of me  but I am
over it now and on my way to better heath.

Below is a 50yrd group with 200gr Win Factory  loads with the Ruger #3.

[dpe.ahoy]

1-3/4" at 250?   Outstanding!   Fred, that is a keeper for sure.  In the same action, the 38-55 is interchangable with 375 Win.  Kinda funny how all the old cartridges that are to "weak" now were fine game getters years ago.  Keep getting better, Fred.   DP.

[Fred M]

dpe.ahoy.
The 38-55 ammo can be used in the 375 Win. But not the other way around.
The 375 Win is loaded to a much higher pressure. The 375 Win is a true .375 caliber. I slugged my 375 bore and it is dead on at .375. With the 38-55
you never know, specially in a Handi, what the bore size is.

I would not advise to shoot 375 Win in a 38-55, nor would I advise to re-bore
a Handi to 375Win. The 375Win is rated at 63.9ksi. and that is much to high for a Handi. If a Handi was converted to 38-55 I would have the bore at .375
that way you could use all available bullets in that caliber.

I will use the 375Win again this fall on deer. I have developed an outstanding
handload with the 225gr Hornady moli coated bullet at 2300ft with a highly compressed load of H322 at 61ksi.