25-06 recoil question

[lonewolf5348]

I think it is to early to tell but I may not be able to shoot my 30-06 no longer
I shot the 38-55 last week and recoil was o.k. I may wait until the end of July to try to shoot the 06 I have to be care full due to the recent neck surgery last dec: 2007
I use to own a 243 and was wondering how the recoil is on the 25-06 I never shot that cal. off hand and I am sure there are a lot of 25-06 owners out there that have both cal:.
I hate to sell my 30-06 because the gun shoots outstanding
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a380/lonewolf5347/30-06target001.jpg

[Mac11700]

There's some kick,but no where near as much as the 30-06..It's a great whitetail round.

Mac

[dpe.ahoy]

Might start off with a slightly reduced load, if you roll your own.  If not, then try some of the managed-recoil loads the factories have.  My Ultra isn't bad, but still more than the 243.  DP.

[nodlenor]

I don't own a 30-06 but I do own a 270 and there is a lot of difference in recoil between it and my 25-06. So I would suspect there would be even more difference from the 30-06. As mentioned, you might start off with a reduced load and maybe a light bullet and work up to what you can take. I've had shoulder surgery and can no longer take much of a pounding from the recoil of larger bores so I can relate to your problem. Also a good recoil pad will help.

[canon6]

If you go to JBM Ballistics, there is a recoil calculator, that will allow you to determine the recoil of any load.Using the top loads in both the 25-06 and the 30-06 you can see that there is only about three pounds of difference  between the 25-06 and the 30-06,in actual recoil ,as stated in foot pounds of energy.
Having said that, these numbers are not linear,  a three pound difference may allow you to use the '25 better than the '06.
I have a very bad right shoulder and used this approach to ,find a cartridge(7X30 Waters) that I could shoot comfortably.hth   Doug

[lonewolf5348]

what about the 7mm-08 as far as recoil compared to the 25-06??
I see they offer that cal.

[dpe.ahoy]

7mm-08 has less recoil than the 25-06 for sure.  It's also an excellent round.  Again, start with reduced loadings and work your way up.  Cannon 6 has a sweet round in the 7-30 Waters, not sure what it would cost to have that done to a Handi, but I'm gonna try it on my 94 Winchester.  It would be nice to see a 257 Roberts in the Handi.  Only got 2 of those in bolt guns so really need one for my Handi collection.   No, I'm not trying to catch Tim , he's to far ahead.   DP.

[lonewolf5348]

I just called H@R and ask if they have the 7MM-08 in stock they said yes total is $112.00 fitted to my action(SB2) I was told just to ship the action less wood:The stated about 2to3 week return
My question is will my Cinnamon stock I have now will the fore tip stock fit the new barrel or is the barrel couture the same as on the 30-06 I think from what I read both are 22" barrels
I did ask about ejections extractors she said as of 2005 all are manual like the new one I have on my 38-55 2007 model.
My 30-06 has the extractor that throws the shell over my shoulder the 38-55 the empty shell has to be removed manual

[quickdtoo]

Forends are all the same, H&R doesn't sell forends for rifles with different barrel channels, they're one size fits all, although they don't fit all contours the same. There is very little difference in the barrel diameter at the forend between standard and bull barrel contours, or the longer 26" barrels, the Superlight is quite a bit smaller tho, but they still use the same forend on it since Choate doesn't offer different forend channels either.  I've swapped many forends on my collection, they all fit just fine with the exception of the TDC forend which the barrel swell is a bit different on the TDC barrel.

Ejectors are spring powered, extractors are manual, all current production barrels will be extractors.

Tim

[lonewolf5348]

Tim: thank you for the reply
I really would like the ejectors but but

[garandsrus]

lonewolf5348,

Assuming you reload, if you want to try shooting cast bullets in your rifle, let me know and I will send you some to try.  You can get an accurate load that has minimal recoil.

Another option is reduced jacketed loads.  I was shooting some mil surplus projectiles in a 30-06 over 13gr Red Dot this afternoon and they shot to about 1 1/2 at 100 yds, which is all you can expect from the bullet.  The recoil is very mild.

John

[lonewolf5348]

garandsrus : I was told jacketed and cast boolets are not a great idea as far as mixing them in the same barrel?
is there any truth to the above:I thought in trying cast in my 06 but I never mix cast and jacketed except in my handguns