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Offline coyote trapper1928

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Savage model 99 in .300 Savage
« on: June 22, 2003, 07:56:53 AM »
Hi: :D

  Does anyone know what models of the Savage 99  were chambered in the .300 Savage? & what is the average value of a Savage model 99 in .300 Savage?

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Savage model 99 in .300 Savage
« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2003, 10:35:44 AM »
coyotetrapper 1928 :  Here goes the list :  99a / 99b / 99h / 99e / 99e carbine / 99f featherweight / 99f /  99g / 99eg / 99eg post war / 99r pre war / 99r post war / 99rs pre war / 99rs post war / 99t / 99 k / 99 dl / and I am sure their was another or two on the list somewhere, value depends on condition and in some cases the area of the country so lets say in the neighberhood of $500.00  :D    JIM

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Savage model 99 in .300 Savage
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2003, 06:23:10 AM »
For some reason, Doug Murray in his book, doesn't say when the .300 Savage was introduced into the m99 lineup.  As near as I can tell, it was somewhere around 1920-1922 that they began to offer the .300 Savage caliber in their m99 models.  At that time, they were still offering .303 Savage and 30-30 as well.  As you may know, the .300 Savage was an attempt to duplicate the US Springfield .30-06 ballistics in a shorter action.  And I thought the .308 was the first short-actioned round in 30 caliber??? :grin:


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« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2003, 01:48:15 PM »
In 1920 in the model 99a :D    JIM

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Savage model 99 in .300 Savage
« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2003, 06:35:16 AM »
SavageT...

Your "educated guess" is correct concerning the date of introduction of the .300 Savage cartridge.   I found two places that referenced the date the .300 Savage was introduced.  I believe there is a 3rd. place that referenced it as well, but I couldn't find it in my quick search.

Look at the first paragraph on page 4-16 and the 2nd. line on page 6-3 of Doug Murray's book, "The Ninety-Nine" (3rd. edition).  Both references indicate that the .300 Savage cartridge was "introduced in 1920", as mentioned previously by "jhm".      :-)

In 1920, the original "short action" cartridge, the .300 Savage, did duplicate the then-current ballistics of the .30/06 which was a 150 grain bullet at 2700 feet/per/second (fps).  Current factory ballistics for the .300 Savage are 2630 fps for the 150 grain bullet whereas improvements in rifle powders over the years currently allow the .30/06 cartridge to drive a 150 grain bullet at over 2900 fps.

I'm getting an average of 2675 fps from my handloads in my Model 99 (EG)/.300 Savage made in 1953.  The rifle is very accurate... averaging in the .6" to .7" range (3-shot groups) at 100 yards using 41.5 grains of IMR4895 (a maximum load) a 150 grain Nosler Ballistic Tip, boat-tailed bullet in front of a maximum charge of IMR4895 using Winchester standard large rifle primers and Winchester cartridge cases.

This load may NOT be safe in your rifle... so drop the powder weight 10% to about 37.5 grains and work up to the best, safe load for your rifle.

Many experts believe that the .300 Savage is, perhaps, "THE" best deer cartridge ever designed since most game bullets seem to work perfectly at .300 Savage velocity and ranges.  As a result, one of the best deer cartridges ever designed is 83 years old.

Gee... who'd have EVER "thunk" it :?:


 :-)  :yeah:



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Savage model 99 in .300 Savage
« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2003, 07:39:44 AM »
Jim, RonT,
Thanks for the confirmation on the .300 Savage date and location in Murray's text. Keep pluggin!


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« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2003, 03:42:04 PM »
savaget:

When they developed the .308, they started with the .300 Savage and "improved" it by straightening the case, squaring the shoulder and lengthening the neck.
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« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2003, 11:43:31 AM »
Just for the record the 300 Savage came in 17 different models of the M99,and 1 in the M1899.Let me line them up for you and make it easier to read.

M1899A
M99B
M99C
M99D
M99E
M99F
M99G
M99H
M99A(1926)
M99K
M99R
M99RS
M99EG
M99T
M99F(1955)
M99DL
M99E
M99A(1971)
Prices can go from $200.00-$2500.00 for the rare M99K or special order M99BC.

As far as velocity for the 300Sav.I use 44.0grs of IMR 4064 for 2800fps-2610fpe out of the 26in barrel of my M99B. But my favorite load is the 165gr NoslerSP at 2600fps-2476fpe with 42.0grs of RL-15.I also have a M99F in 300Sav with 22in barrel.But I can not reach the velocities quoted above  in post with the shorter 22in barrel.
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