TT 33 7.62 x25 Jaming

[Archie]

I have a TT 33 Polish 7.62 x 25 Tokerev, that jams.  When the gun is clean and oiled it will shoot a clip with out jamming, then it jams like every other one.  I changed out the magizine spring and the main spring.  Do these have a history of specific problems.  When I first got it about a year ago it when through about a box of ammo before is started to jam.  It seemed that the Winchester ammo was better than the S&B that I shoot regularlly.  Anyone have this problem, any problems with this type of ammo.

Thanks

[Mikey]

The only time my Tok jams up on me is when it is soooo dirty it won't choke down a full mag.  Cleaning and oiling solves the problem for me, but not so for you.  These things are incredibly simple.  The magazines are not usually at fault due to the design of the feed lips incorporated into the hammer/sear group.  Those feed lips were designed to eliminate most problems with the magazine lips that other autos may encounter. 

First, what kind of jams do you experience??  Do the rounds stovepipe or just jam against the bottom of the back side of the barrel?  If it is stovepiping I would get a couple of additional mags and try them.  If that doesn't fix the problem then at least you have a couple of additional mags.  I would also check the feed lips for burrs and check over the piece for unusual wear marks.  Also, once dismantled, check the hammer/sear group - they are easy to take apart and put back together - check for burrs and general smoothness. 

Where did you get your magazine spring?  Wolff in Pennsylvania sells replacement springs for the 7.62 caliber - yours may have come with a 9mm recoil spring which is somewhat weaker than the 7.62 spring and that may be a culprit.  Also, your hammer spring may get hung up causing the slide to fail to go rearward but if she cocks every time that isn't the problem.

Let's first take a look at how the piece jams and go from there.  BTW, I understand the Winchester white box 7.62x25mm ammo is made by S&B but I'm not sure.  HTH.  Mikey.

I would suggest two

[Archie]

Thanks for the info.

When it jams the hammer is cocked.  At first empties get stuck in the opening, but then fresh bullets will not strip out of the magizine.  I did get the springs from Woff.

[S.S.]

sounds like low pressure ammo does not have enough power to fully eject the spent case.
Or, With my CZ52 I had to disassemble the gun and fit a copper brush into a drill and polish
the chamber with it before it would eject properly. I also polished the feed ramp whiile I was at it.

[Mikey]

Archie - I have to agree with S. Sumner on this one.  It sounds as if your ammo isn't stout enough to completely cycle the action.  I would make certain she is clean athen put a box of Sellier and Bellot ammo through it and see what happens.  I thought the Winchester white box ammo was made by S&B for that caliber but maybe not.  Maybe it is lightweight for the older Broomhandle Mausers. 

Once you have it apart and the chamber clean see if the chamber will hold a a loaded round and if you can shake it out without it sticking - at least you will know your chamber is large enough.  But this sounds like an ammo problem.  Mikey.

[tnekkc]

I have some Polish Tokarevs that do not push the next round in.
I can push on the rear of the slide with my shooting hand thumb, and get the next round into battery.

My Chinese and Russian Tokarevs do not.

I always thought that if I put some new springs in them it would fix it.

Maybe I will have to fluff and buff the pistols.

The best way to fix pistols that jam is to make some dummy rounds and sit down and force feed the pistol in slow motion, looking to see what  hangs it up.

I know a guy that had a tokarev that had metal peening where the slide pushes back the hammer.

[Mikey]

tnekkc - I had the same thing on my Chinese Tok - the peening you described.  I just polished it off and contributed it to soft metals.  I would think a new set of springs would take care of the jamming or ftf problem.  I know that when mine gets filthy she will really slow down and the lst round will not go into battery until I at least clean the chamber.

If you can close the slide on a loaded round with your thumb then a new set of springs is in order and possibly some fluffin' and buffin' will help.  HTH. Mikey.