My cleaning brush is stuck, HELP!

[Idaho Ron]

My Green mountain Barrel came with a Aluminum rod. I went to clean it last night and the brush stayed at the bottom. The rod split and the insert pulled out leaving the whole thing in the bottom. I tried air but the air passes right through the brush. I put some accura glass gell in the rod and left it for 8 hours. I went to pull it out and the end came off again. I am not sure I left the accura glass long enough to fully harden. I mixed up some JB weld and I have put some down inside the rod, and put the rod back in. I am going to leave it for 24 hours.
 If that does not work what then? I don't want to pull the breech plug because it will mess up my sight in for the gun. I am in the middle of a hunt and need to get this out NOW!
 I have been thinking about dumping like 100 gr of powder down the barrel and letting it pass by the brush. Then poking some cloth around the brush and trying to blow it out. Any Ideas if the JB weld failes?   Ron

[Birddog6]

The Accraglas didn't fully harden. Takes 16-24 hrs for it to fully cure. Also if you didn't clean the rod well any oil will work against ya.

Shoot the brush out.    Take the vent or nipple out, work about 20-30 grns of 3F down the nipple hole & shoot the brush out.

Trash the alum hollow rod & buy a solid brass or SS rod for cleaning & range shooting (MBS, Log Cabin, TOW,Cain's Ourdoors, about any good ML parts vender)

Also, removing the breechplug should have nothing to do with the sight adjustment on the rifle.  Breechplug should have a index mark (if not, put on on it) remove the plug, push the brush out & put the plug back to the index mark.

[victorcharlie]

I've had the same problem with the rod that came with my green mountain barrel. 

shooting it out seems like a good idea.

There arn't many glues that will work, so I drilled and inserted a roll pin.

also, the bullet seating end of the rod is threaded and it doesn't appear to have the problem that the other end has.

I hope green mountain addresses this problem in the future as they have to good a product to send out a crappy rod.

[Biff Mayhem]

All you need is about five grains down the nipple hole to shoot it out. Everyone who gets a Green Mountain aftermarket barrel needs to take both ends off their new ramrods & re-glue them.

Every barrel I received had a new ramrod with the same problem. Actually, their ramrods are only good for home cleanings anyways. I always buy a better replacement one from rmcsports.com for carrying around with the ML.

[quickdtoo]

Here's another thread on the same problem.

Tim

http://www.graybeardoutdoors.com/smf/index.php/topic,95381.0.html

[Idaho Ron]

I got it. Instead of trying to pull the whole thing, I unscrewed the insert. I bought a solid brass range rod and threaded it into the brush and it cam out fine. The glue almost didn't hold it to unscrew it. Anyway I am out of the woods on this one.  Thanks,   Ron

[roundball]

Another approach is to get a piece of thin walled tubing at a harware store that just barely fits inside the bore...slide it down past the bristles, the brush will then be captured inside the tube, and just slide the tube back out.

In the future, if anybody gets a brush hung, DO NOT SIMPLY APPLY GORILLA POWER...just turn the ramrod clockwise a 1/4-1/2 turn...this will curve the bristles effectively "shortening them", breaking their straight out tight jam into the bore walls, then just slide it right back out.

[crow_feather]

Roundball,

What a clever idea with the tube device.  You one of them fellas that invented them tubes that fly into outer space? 

C F

[Biff Mayhem]

Roundball,

What a clever idea with the tube device.  You one of them fellas that invented them tubes that fly into outer space? 

C F

You mean fly like this?

[fffffg]

  i keep a steel range rod in the car for these problems and pulling dry balls...  a patch screw will go thru the bristles and pull it out..  this is not a brass bore size round with a black screw on it.. it is a brass base rod end with about a 1 inche cork screw on the end.. it is fairly fragel  so dont twist it two hard.. its made to pull cloth patches from the breach.. dave...

[Rum River]

I managed to stick a brush a couple of years ago. Agonized awhile on how to fix.

Ended up removing the nipple and working FFFFg through the touch hole with a vent pick.

The first try wasn't enough powder, tried again and popped it right out. I didn't measure how much, but estimate maybe 10 - 15 grs.

I kept the mangled brush (from losing it in the barrel, not from shooting it out) as a reminder not do stupid stuff. (It was definitely operator error in my case.)

Every once in a while I tell people how I worked up a "brush load" for my rifle.

Get it? Isn't that funny? Right.....yeah.....real funny.........never mind.