Another Iran Deal?

[Mule 11]

I on the other hand believe hammering Iran was needed. I also would be fine if the spanking were to continue and we sent in voluntary special forces as ground air and sea American Ninjas. I just wont bitch and moan if I dont get my way. President Trump has a lot on his plate and I am grateful for all he has done. I am also one of the ones who believe our economy etc are moving in the right direction. Sorry no 1 liner as I had a bit to say.

.Interesting! Economically most don't see it your way.

 A record 55% of adults say their financial situation is worsening, and around 34% describe their situation as ?struggling? or in ?crisis.? While a majority still report getting by, severe affordability concerns?primarily driven by inflation and the elevated cost of living?dominate consumer anxiety.

Yep and most forget this was all brought on by the puppet masters that installed biden and whore
Keep complaining and the leftists will rule the roost again and it will be even worse next time around

[nw_hunter]

It's apparent to me that President Trump does not control Israel. It remains to be seen how they handle this deal.
I hope they can control Bibi. I would love to see Trump having more time on his hands to spend on the America first agenda, and not entanglement in wars we don't need. There is still a lot of work to be done with the illegal immigration problem, and improving the economy.

Israeli Ministers Say U.S.-Iran Peace Deal Does Not Bind Israel, Israel Will Not Abandon Conquered Territories
by
R. Cort Kirkwood
June 15, 2026
Top Israeli officials said not only that Israel is not bound by the U.S.-Iran peace pact to be signed on Friday, but also that it will not abandon the territories it has illegally seized in Gaza, Syria, and Lebanon.

The nation?s ministers of defense, finance, and national security denounced the agreement, although Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu only warned that Israel will never permit Iran to obtain a nuclear weapon.

On Sunday, Israel struck targets in Lebanon, supposedly to respond to a Hezbollah attack on Israel.


Minister of National Security
In a 370-word jeremiad on X, Itamar Ben-Gvir, the minister of national security, declared that Israel is ?not subject to the United States, and we are an independent and sovereign nation!?

Whether that means Israel will no longer fleece American taxpayers to the tune of more than $3 billion annually is unclear. But Ben-Gvir made clear his nation has no obligations to the United States, despite more than $300 billion in aid since 1946.

?Our duty is to the citizens of Israel, to the soldiers of the IDF, and to the Jewish people, and our historical duty to the persecuted and murdered Jews over thousands of years of exile, to provide security to Jews in the Land of Israel,? Ben-Gvir fumed on X:

Every time we succumbed to international pressure at the expense of Israel?s security, we paid a blood price with interest. It was true in the Oslo Accords, it was true in the Lebanon agreement in 2006, and it was true in every period of containment in Gaza that exploded in our faces.

We emphasize: We love the USA and are grateful to President Trump. And yet, the State of Israel is not a banana republic.

Despite all that ?love,? for the ?USA,? Israel?s espionage here is ?critical? and ?unhinged,? a recent Pentagon report says.

?We are not partners to this agreement that does not ensure our security, and it does not bind us in any way,? Ben-Gvir continued:

We must not compromise on anything less than the dismantling of Hezbollah, we must not withdraw from any territory that our fighters have captured and cleared of terror infrastructure, we must not return to a situation where thousands of terrorists sit on the fences of northern settlements, and certainly we must not remain silent for a moment in the face of fire directed at the State of Israel. ?

The days are over when the Jew took blows and kept silent. Never again!

Minister of Defense
Israel Katz, minister of defense, unspooled an even longer screed about what Israel ?expects? of U.S. President Donald Trump.

Conceding that Israel and the United States enjoy a ?shared interest,? Katz wrote that ?Israel must ensure that in the future as well, we will have the ability to act independently to prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons, and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and I have instructed the IDF to prepare accordingly.?

Beyond that, Israel will not withdraw from the territories it has conquered in Gaza, Syria and Lebanon, which Katz euphemistically called ?security zones.?

[gypsyman]

 Lets hope this is settled. Highly doubt it, to much distrust on all sides. Best thing the U.S. could do, is back off as is planned, and concentrate on getting this country back on track. Biden left this country in the worst shape it's ever been in, and it will take more than 4 years to get it straightened up, no matter who is president.

[DDZ]

We went to war for Israel. Not America. I find it odd people can't see that. Why did we as America have to go to war with Iran? Oh thats right. They were close to making a nuclear bomb, right after we completely decimated their nuclear weapons program with operation midnight hammer.

  Now Israel says they are not bound to the new Trump deal with Iran. Shouldn't they be since they are our greatest ally. I have to wonder how good this deal will actually be for America. If we won like we have been told over and over by Trump, and fox news. Why do we have to make deals with a supposedly defeated enemy?  If you defeat your enemy its you that generally dictate the terms moving forward. We have not seen the particulars yet of this deal, but rumor has it that it includes 300 billion for rebuilding infrastructure in Iran.  Sounds like another great deal for America where American tax payers get to bend over again and take it for our government.  I hear the stock market is doing great, yet regular Americans struggle to put food on the table after paying taxes, insurance companies, and energy costs.   

[ironglowz]

I on the other hand believe hammering Iran was needed. I also would be fine if the spanking were to continue and we sent in voluntary special forces as ground air and sea American Ninjas. I just wont bitch and moan if I dont get my way. President Trump has a lot on his plate and I am grateful for all he has done. I am also one of the ones who believe our economy etc are moving in the right direction. Sorry no 1 liner as I had a bit to say.

.Interesting! Economically most don't see it your way.

 A record 55% of adults say their financial situation is worsening, and around 34% describe their situation as ?struggling? or in ?crisis.? While a majority still report getting by, severe affordability concerns?primarily driven by inflation and the elevated cost of living?dominate consumer anxiety.

  Some may not see it as "economically" feasible, but some in the intel community are convinced that the Ayatollah was only week at best, away from a deliverable nuclear weapon.

  We know for sure that he had rockets capable of reaching European and certainly mid eastern capitals...all he had to do was to "screw them on" and fire.

  We don't know if he has any capable of reaching us?  I have little doubt that the fat little North Korean dictator would furnish them.

   Nuclear "dirty bombs" would not be much better either.. and he already has the "dirt" ! 

   ..Let's just see how it plays out now.

[Graybeard]

rumor has it that it includes 300 billion for rebuilding infrastructure in Iran.

No US tax dollars involved. Money to come from other Gulf neighbors but only if Iran plays nice and lives up to their bargain with Trump. Our troops will not be leaving until Iran has lived up to all they sign and agree to.

[ironglowz]

rumor has it that it includes 300 billion for rebuilding infrastructure in Iran.

No US tax dollars involved. Money to come from other Gulf neighbors but only if Iran plays nice and lives up to their bargain with Trump. Our troops will not be leaving until Iran has lived up to all they sign and agree to.

  Once again, Bill is spot on !  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPvNLTG9xUo

[Mule 11]

Hey dont let facts get in the way of more Trump bashing.

[nw_hunter]

Hey dont let facts get in the way of more Trump bashing.

Hopefully Trump is coming to his senses. Israel is doing everything they can do de-rail every thing Trump tries to do with Iran.
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/donald-trump-popularity-israel/2026/06/17/id/1259923/?ns_mail_uid=5b8c9cde-91ac-4455-8151-da9662f38cc6&ns_mail_job=DM980189_06172026&s=acs&dkt_nbr=010502oqf2sy

[gypsyman]

  Trump is at the G7 summit today. He came out with a statement saying Netanyahu needs to back off the bombing in Lebanon.  He's trying to get this settled, but according to them, they don't have to abide by this plan. Couldn't get any more clear than that.  They don't want this to end,  pretty obvious.

[ironglowz]

..A bit of patience please..  The man who wrote "The Art of the Deal", seems to know how to play both ends against the middle.  He's done it most all his life, and done it successfully at that..

  Obviously, he wants to keep casualties at a minimum, so it may take a bit longer..    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57IL2qg4XXM

[Graybeard]

Read the Updated 14-Point Draft Memorandum Between US, Iran

https://www.newsmax.com/headline/draft-memorandum-us-iran-deal/2026/06/17/id/1259934/

New details released Wednesday suggest the Trump administration agreed to several last-minute concessions to Iran as part of the peace deal set to be signed later this week, including on the Strait of Hormuz, Lebanon and Tehran's enriched uranium program.

During a call with reporters, a senior U.S. official read through the 14-point U.S.-Iran memorandum of understanding, disclosing provisions that appear to grant Iran more favorable terms than those outlined in a version leaked Tuesday.

The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran and their allies in the current war, by signing this MOU, declare the immediate and permanent termination of military operations on all fronts, including in Lebanon, and undertake from now on not to initiate any war or any military operation against each other, and to refrain from the threat or use of force against each other, and ensuring the territorial integrity and sovereignty of Lebanon. The final deal will confirm the permanent termination of the war on all fronts, including in Lebanon, and other provisions of this paragraph.

The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran undertake to respect each other?s sovereignty and territorial integrity and to refrain from interfering in each other?s internal affairs.

The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran commit to negotiating and achieving the final deal in maximum 60 days extendable with mutual consent.
Immediately upon the signing of this MOU, the United States of America will begin the removal of its naval blockade and any disturbances or impediments against the Islamic Republic of Iran, and will fully end the naval blockade within 30 days. During this period, the traffic of vessels will be in proportion to the numbers of pre-war traffic being restored by the Islamic Republic of Iran. The United States of America further undertakes to remove its forces from the proximity of the Islamic Republic of Iran within 30 days after the final deal.

Upon the signing of this MOU, Islamic Republic of Iran will make arrangements using its best efforts for the safe passage of commercial vessels with no charge for 60 days only from the Persian Gulf to the Sea of Oman, and vice versa. The traffic of commercial vessels will immediately start, and considering the need for removing the technical and military obstacles and demining by the Islamic Republic of Iran will be instated within 30 days. The Islamic Republic of Iran will conduct dialog with the Sultanate of Oman to define the future administration and maritime services in the Strait of Hormuz in discussion with other Persian Gulf or littoral states in line with the applicable international law and the sovereign rights of coastal states of the Strait of Hormuz.

United States of America undertakes with regional partners to develop a definitive, mutually agreed plan with at least USD $300 billion for the reconstruction and economic development of the Islamic Republic of Iran. The mechanism for the implementation of this plan will be finalized as part of a final deal within 60 days. All required licenses, waivers, and permissions needed for the relevant financial transactions will be granted by the United States of America.

The United States of America undertakes to terminate all types of sanctions against the Islamic Republic of Iran, including the United Nations Security Council resolutions, i.e. a Board of Governors resolutions, and all unilateral US sanctions, primary and secondary, in an agreed-upon schedule as part of the final deal. The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States of America acknowledge the critical importance of the sanctions termination issue above mentioned, and expressed their intentions to immediately address these issues in the negotiations in order to achieve mutual agreement on them.

The Islamic Republic of Iran reaffirms that it shall not procure or develop nuclear weapons. United States of America and Islamic Republic of Iran have agreed to resolve the disposition of stockpile enriched material pursuant to a mechanism that will be mutually agreed upon in accordance with the schedule mentioned in paragraph seven, with the minimum methodology to be down blending on site under the supervision of the IAEA. The two parties also agreed to discuss the issue of enrichment and other mutually agreed matters related to the Islamic Republic of Iran?s nuclear needs, based on a satisfactory framework being agreed upon in the final deal. The final deal will confirm the provisions of this paragraph. The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran acknowledge the critical importance of the nuclear issues above mentioned and express their intention to immediately address these issues in the negotiations in order to achieve mutual agreement on them.

Pending the final deal, the United States of America and Islamic Republic of Iran agree to maintain the status quo. The Islamic Republic of Iran will maintain the current status quo of its nuclear program and the United States of America will not impose any new sanctions and will not deploy additional forces in the region.
The United States of America undertakes that immediately upon the signing of MOU until the termination of sanctions, US Department of Treasury will issue waivers for the export of Iranian crude oil, petroleum products, and derivatives, and all associated services, including banking transactions, insurances, transportation, etc.
The United States of America undertakes to make fully available for use the frozen or restricted funds and assets of the Islamic Republic of Iran. Upon the implementation of this MOU, the United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran will mutually agree on the procedures related to the release of these funds during the negotiations. Such funds, whether retained in the original account or transferred, shall be made fully usable for payment to any ultimate beneficiary designed by the Central Bank of the Islamic Republic of Iran. The United States of America undertakes to issue all necessary licenses and authorizations accordingly.
The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran agree that an executive mechanism will be established to monitor the successful implementation of this MOU and the future compliance of the final deal.

After signing this MOU, and subject to the beginning of the implementation of paragraphs 1, 4, 5, 10, and 11 of the MOU, and the continuing implementation of these measures, the United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran will start negotiations regarding the final deal exclusively on the other paragraphs.
The final deal will be endorsed by a binding UNSC resolution.