Who would have, could have, thought..?

[ironglowz]

  Who would have thought, that this tiny nation smaller in land size than New Jersey, and re-established just 78 years ago, would today, take their place as one of the
   3 or 4 great super powers of the world?

    Th tiny sliver of Israel (in blue) stands out among much larger and many failing nations..

[Bob Riebe]

       God chooses who rises and falls.  AT that , man makes his own misery.

[Mule 11]

       God chooses who rises and falls.  AT that , man makes his own misery.

  Sure doesn’t seem to wise to side against God’s chosen people…

[Lloyd Smale]

BIG advantage Iran has over Israel and the US is thar half of iran is willing to die for theyre country and or religion and in America it probably doesnt reach one percent if there was a way to insure honest polling. i once asked a senior chief what was the most dangerous enemy to face. he said #1 a man who will die for his religious beliefs and secondly a man who was willing to die for his country. but #1's are hands down the worse. now whats the percentage of Americans that enlist? lets then take probably 10% of the enlistment numbers that when face to face with killing will freeze run or disobey orders? you say that wont happen! well ive seen many postings here saying just the opposite. many saying they would disobey orders. THIS is what scares me about iran. They WILL obey orders, will kill if ordered, they will die for there cause or someone a higher up will strap a bomb to them and send them out to die. fail? every member of your family is executed. i know this was about Isreal and s slid off topic a bit but the way i see it is the iranians are essentially 10s of thousands of kamikaze's that have woven themselves into our counrty. isreal? some bad ass warriors and a much higher # willing to die for there cause. Us? Remember less than 2 years ago we were putting tranny shows on bases applauding the gay enlistment numbers. We defineately had hard core boot licking lib leadership in the Coast Guard and army.

[Ranger99]

I'll go ahead and say it again

They can't be bargained with in any way.
They won't sign or hold to a treaty.
You can't capture rhem and turn them loose
after the hierarchy surrenders.
They're exactly like varmints that eat your eggs
and kill your poultry/livestock and destroy
your garden and crops.
You can't live trap them and tote them down
the road and turn em loose and declare your
problem solved.
They're exactly like the felon inmates here.
They're right back in lockup within a couple
of years after release.

Should have been dealt with after all the
murders at the olympics in the 70's, the
hijackings and murders, the embassy
hostages, marine barracks, etc. etc.
We kicked the can, and now here it is
again, and generations down the road
will have to repeatedly deal with the
same animals
They're definitely not stopping down
to the last man until they achieve a
global caliphate

[ironglowz]

I'll go ahead and say it again

They can't be bargained with in any way.
They won't sign or hold to a treaty.
You can't capture rhem and turn them loose
after the hierarchy surrenders.
They're exactly like varmints that eat your eggs
and kill your poultry/livestock and destroy
your garden and crops.
You can't live trap them and tote them down
the road and turn em loose and declare your
problem solved.
They're exactly like the felon inmates here.
They're right back in lockup within a couple
of years after release.

Should have been dealt with after all the
murders at the olympics in the 70's, the
hijackings and murders, the embassy
hostages, marine barracks, etc. etc.
We kicked the can, and now here it is
again, and generations down the road
will have to repeatedly deal with the
same animals
They're definitely not stopping down
to the last man until they achieve a
global caliphate

  Yes, you are correct, and you framed it well !  They are "Hell bent" (literally) to destroy all the "infidels", no matter what the scheme or manner of doing it ! Their very 'faith' says it is permissible to lie to infidels, which explains the value of any promise or treaty coming from them.

  Unless/until they change their religion and it's 7th century attitudes of conquest and "convert or die" theology, it seems the only option we have is...us or them !

[Ranger99]

  . . .  it seems the only option we have is...us or them !

It absolutely IS THE ONLY WAY.
Yes, the thought is very unpleasant, and I don't know of
anybody who relishes the thought of all or nothing, but
that's how they think, and every succeeding generation
thinks and it'll never change.
The world will stop spinning and the sun will fizzle out first