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My view of certain .22 LR rounds.
« on: December 22, 2020, 06:02:03 AM »
  It is said that lightning never hits twice in the same place!  For that reason, I figure Remington lightnings and thunderbolts are well named.
  Wildcats are crazy, erratic creatures..and that's why believe Winchester named those particular cartridges very well.

  Anyone agree ?
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Re: My view of certain .22 LR rounds.
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2020, 06:35:20 AM »
Never had any problems with any of'em
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Re: My view of certain .22 LR rounds.
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2020, 07:38:32 AM »
Some of My .22's shoot that Cheap Promotional Stuff Okay...Some, Ya can't Hit the Ground with Em...

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« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2020, 08:28:31 AM »
I haven't had a great deal of function problems with them, but their accuracy leaves much to be desired, not even considering target grade ammo.
  but I think both lines suffer across the board, when compared to anything CCI..especially the CCI standards.  CCI being my "go to" line for about 50 years now.
   Again, as a complete line, the Aguilas shine, but are a bit harder to find around here.

   Needless to say, I am a big rimfire fan.
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Re: My view of certain .22 LR rounds.
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2020, 08:40:04 AM »
Iíve had good luck with everything except thunderbolts which gave me roughly 10% duds from the two bricks I once owned.
Wildcats always went bang, but accuracy was spotty.
I still have two bricks of Winchester T-22 thatís very accurate in my Cricket but not in my Sears model 43.
I have several bricks of Federal HVHP and enough Winchester dynapoints to equip an army.
That is, I had all that stuff until the boating accident. :o
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Re: My view of certain .22 LR rounds.
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2020, 08:55:49 AM »
I sold everything when prices skyrocketed, and cashed in on the shortages.  My go to plan is keeping my phone close in case I need to call 911.
1st Corinthians Chapter 11, Verse 28. But let a man EXAMINE HIMSELF, and so let him eat of "that " bread, and drink of "that" cup.

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« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2020, 09:31:14 AM »
I sold everything when prices skyrocketed, and cashed in on the shortages.  My go to plan is keeping my phone close in case I need to call 911.
Yep, the cops will be there in 30 seconds or less.  ::)
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Re: My view of certain .22 LR rounds.
« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2020, 10:33:47 AM »
Nope don't agree Ironglow. Never shot Lightning so no opinion on them. I picked up brick of the Thunderbolt and it has worked well and been accurate. Mostly tho I tend to avoid Remington rimfire since a long ago incident I think was old and improperly stored ammo so really not Remington's fault.

In my competition shooting days my best friend and shooting partner used only Wildcat cuz it was cheap. No one ever beat him due to the ammo. If you wanted to beat him you had to earn it.

I mostly shot Winchester copper washed ammo or CCI HPs. The CCI was most accurate in my guns but hard to come by. The Winchester was almost equally accurate and easy to buy in case (5000 rounds) quantities so I didn't have to buy as often.


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Re: My view of certain .22 LR rounds.
« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2020, 10:34:50 AM »
Iíve had good luck with everything except thunderbolts which gave me roughly 10% duds from the two bricks I once owned.
Wildcats always went bang, but accuracy was spotty.
I still have two bricks of Winchester T-22 thatís very accurate in my Cricket but not in my Sears model 43.
I have several bricks of Federal HVHP and enough Winchester dynapoints to equip an army.
That is, I had all that stuff until the boating accident. :o

  There was a time, many years ago, when the T-22 was my go to for accuracy, before CCI came out with their standards.  Actually from what I understand, the CCI "selects", are the real go-to rounds now.
  My grandson told me the selects all come off one machine at CCI, because it produces superior rounds.  He didn't elaborate whether that was by accident or design !

   Although I am a rimfire fan, I have no large selection of rimfire rounds around home.   Closest source would probably be, Cabelas  about 45-50 miles away.  So I rarely get into the Eleys, SKs, Wolf or Lapuas. I would like to find a good source for Aguilas, soince I have found many of their choices to be accurate.
   In the gun stores around here, we have the usual; Winchesters, Remingtons, Federals and CCIs..  .CCIs are very dominant, I presume others choose them for the same reason I choose them.
  Hornadys available in .22 Mags and .17 HMRs.

 
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Re: My view of certain .22 LR rounds.
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2021, 04:30:11 PM »
Interesting reading.
When I started collecting ammunition for collecting purposes, .22 boxes, many no longer around , were comparatively cheap, then, my brother bought a vintage Remington top line .22 bolt action, so I thought, well we can shoot these and see which is most accurate.
BUT
he got married and last for all practical purposes gave the rifle away,  (he could have gotten half of what they gave him, had he just sold the RARE extra magazines online).
So now I have a couple of thousand rounds of very varied .22 rimfire.
I do have my Stevens  87J  .22 semi-auto, which dad won at a Minnesota Mining and Manufacturing drawing, (how times have changed)  but have to work on the firing pin so it does not misfire on rare occasions.
At that while it served me well in my rabbit hunting days it was never exceptionally accurate.
When I put a Weaver V22 on it  fifty years ago, I was very happy with the results.

When I think of .22 long rifle I still think of the yellow .22 Western we had up here, no Winchester; green Remington Golden Bullet; Federal, back then it was just Federal; and then came along CCI, plus when the farm store opened they had, and we were OH WOW British ammunition, Eley; oh i almost forgot Coast to Coast (CIL).
Now I think the only one of those still around in the form I grew up with is the Remington Golden Bullet.

Here is an interesting bit of information:
https://www.accurateshooter.com/guns-of-week/22lr-rimfire-ammo-comparison-test/

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Re: My view of certain .22 LR rounds.
« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2021, 04:58:39 PM »
Iíve had good luck with everything except thunderbolts which gave me roughly 10% duds from the two bricks I once owned.
Wildcats always went bang, but accuracy was spotty.
I still have two bricks of Winchester T-22 thatís very accurate in my Cricket but not in my Sears model 43.
I have several bricks of Federal HVHP and enough Winchester dynapoints to equip an army.
That is, I had all that stuff until the boating accident. :o

  There was a time, many years ago, when the T-22 was my go to for accuracy, before CCI came out with their standards.  Actually from what I understand, the CCI "selects", are the real go-to rounds now.
  My grandson told me the selects all come off one machine at CCI, because it produces superior rounds.  He didn't elaborate whether that was by accident or design !

   Although I am a rimfire fan, I have no large selection of rimfire rounds around home.   Closest source would probably be, Cabelas  about 45-50 miles away.  So I rarely get into the Eleys, SKs, Wolf or Lapuas. I would like to find a good source for Aguilas, soince I have found many of their choices to be accurate.
   In the gun stores around here, we have the usual; Winchesters, Remingtons, Federals and CCIs..  .CCIs are very dominant, I presume others choose them for the same reason I choose them.
  Hornadys available in .22 Mags and .17 HMRs.

 
Before the boating accident I had nearly a brick of Aguila HVHP and with my then Remington 581 I shot some of my best groups.  One group at 50 yards was a perfect cloverleaf that measured 3/8Ē
I glued that one on the wall of my little shop.
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Re: My view of certain .22 LR rounds.
« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2021, 09:49:33 PM »
ive had probably my worse luck with accuracy and the most miss fires out of thunderbolts then the rest combined. I swear i can even here the sound change from one round to another in some batches. best cheap stuff is blazers. They shoot as well as some of my match ammo. Dont worry about it much anymore. I drifted away from 22s a couple years ago and rarely shoot them anymore. For one im nervous about using my stash and not being able to replace it and also found i can shoot reloaded cast 9s darned near as cheap as 22s and they are just more fun to pound steel with.
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Re: My view of certain .22 LR rounds.
« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2021, 11:08:56 PM »
I have not had ANY "bad" 22LR ammo and I have a stainless Ruger K77/22RP bolt rifle that will shoot most brands (have not tried them "all") to a degree of accuracy (formerly out to 25 yards) that exceeds my specifications (center of "X" between ears and eyes of hog).  I am a Happy Camper that the rifle likes cheap (when I bought it) bulk boxes of Remington 550 count.

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« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2021, 01:13:14 AM »
The tests that Bob posted was very comprehensive and informative, but here is the kicker with .22 LR ammo, actually with any ammo.. 
  Change the gun or change the shooter, and the results can change dramatically. Here for instance, is a different shooter/different gun, with a fairly broad set of samples..  With this shooter, you don't have to sit through the shooting process..he goes almost directly to
 thee target results.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGdA2c9N_-I

  Still another shooter, another gun..
   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M43_zxGrovU
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« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2021, 12:12:12 PM »
I sold everything when prices skyrocketed, and cashed in on the shortages.  My go to plan is keeping my phone close in case I need to call 911.

Suuuure you did and suuuure you are. Not calling you a liar, just taking those statements with a very large grain of salt and in the same vein as my statement about having to rely on a grub hoe handle.

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« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2021, 12:16:16 PM »
I have since bought a sturdy walking cane for balance and possibly protection.
1st Corinthians Chapter 11, Verse 28. But let a man EXAMINE HIMSELF, and so let him eat of "that " bread, and drink of "that" cup.

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« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2021, 05:03:04 AM »
I've though about a shillalie (is that the way it's spelled?) but the Irish want too much money for a knobby stick.

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Re: My view of certain .22 LR rounds.
« Reply #17 on: January 13, 2021, 06:41:19 AM »
Proper spelling is: shillelagh

Long, long ago I worked on the guidance system for an Army missile by that same name.


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Re: My view of certain .22 LR rounds.
« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2021, 06:46:52 AM »
I shot a bunch of Wildcat's in my youth in the old Ruger 10/22 I still have. They worked well with no complaints. The Thunderbolt's weren't as accurate in my gun.

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« Reply #19 on: January 13, 2021, 06:57:09 AM »
In my youth, Ruger was not yet making guns. But then I am 2 days older than dirt.


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« Reply #20 on: January 13, 2021, 11:38:42 AM »
My first gun was a Stevens single shot, with a "Tenite" (plastic) stock.  Then when I turned 16, I made a trip to the local hardware store, and bought a Winchester single shot, bolt action rifle.
  Imagine that, 16 years old, the hardware man sells me a gun...and nobody ever got hurt with that gun...except for some woodchucks, pigeons and crows!
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