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Powder Coating Cast Bullets
« on: May 19, 2013, 04:31:19 PM »
Tripped over the idea of powder coated cast bullets. Seems like a neat idea.

I'm also wondering about alternatives like:

1) Since it's basically Poly, could just some normal clear poly liquid coating be used?

2) Would just coating the base of a GC design by filling the GC relief be effective? I.e. a poly gas check?

Your thoughts?

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Re: Powder Coating Cast Bullets
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2013, 10:25:45 PM »
I experimented with powder coating cast bullets. It works but is a pain to set-up the bullets since an electrical contact has to be maintained with the bullet. Bullets had to be free of any dirt or oils, even the oils from your bare hands would be enough to not allow the paint to adhere properly.
As far as shooting they did well, especially in the revolvers and semi-autos. I had great accuracy in the 30-06 up to about 1,800 fps but never tried it faster than that.
It was slow and messy.

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Re: Powder Coating Cast Bullets
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2013, 11:51:03 PM »
seems like lots of work to cure a problem that doesnt exist. But i guess i too have played around with stuff that didnt make sense just out of boredom
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Re: Powder Coating Cast Bullets
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2013, 02:26:21 PM »
FYI; There are three or four very extensive threads on coating with powder "paint" and other substances over at Castboolits.com in the lube section.

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Re: Powder Coating Cast Bullets
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2013, 02:40:46 PM »
FYI; There are three or four very extensive threads on coating with powder "paint" and other substances over at Castboolits.com in the lube section.

Was going through those... there was so much there... I wasn't sure what the final verdict was!

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Re: Powder Coating Cast Bullets
« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2013, 02:46:07 PM »
seems like lots of work to cure a problem that doesnt exist. But i guess i too have played around with stuff that didnt make sense just out of boredom

I guess. It looked like an attractive, if difficult, method to get jacketed velocity out of cast bullets. Hopefully without a lot of worry about alloy. I guess the idea would be able to do what paper patching claims you can do... jacketed velocity with soft lead.

Apparently it's all the rage over in Australia, for what that's worth.

If I could settle on some paper I believed was without clay and such, I'd probably try what I saw one poster do over on castbullets... just make gas checks from paper stock that fit to a GC shanked bullet. That looked like a nice compromise that uses standard molds.

Like a lot of projects I'm waiting to do, seems like making copper checks from scratch would be good too. "Someday" I hope to tinker with making up the tooling to do it. I mean it's basically a hole punch, a forming punch and a die. The only real question in my mind there is the dimensions really.

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Re: Powder Coating Cast Bullets
« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2013, 04:53:16 PM »
a tube of liquid alox works great
and goes a long way.

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Re: Powder Coating Cast Bullets
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2014, 07:33:24 AM »
I have been powder coating some bullets for a few weeks. I DT, dry tumble clean bullets in a small container with powder and set them on alum foil and bake them @ 400 degrees for 20 minutes. Actually powder coating this way is easier than pan lubing, less messy than alox, and way cheaper than a lubersizer. I don't use a gun, don't need a compressor, just dry tumble. I have only coated bullets for my .44 Mag (265 gr. RNFP and a Lee 240 gr TL SWC) some for my .35/.357 (125 gr. RNFP). I loaded them with lead bullet data and so far they seem to shoot fine w/no leading or fouling...

Castboolits.com has a Powder Coating section with many, many threads/posts...

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Re: Powder Coating Cast Bullets
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2014, 01:57:45 PM »
Do you have to do anything to get the powder to adhere to the bullets when you dry tumble them?
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Re: Powder Coating Cast Bullets
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2014, 12:38:37 AM »
I've tried the TL PC bullets with fairly good success,warming the bullets slightly but not hot to the touch seem to work just fine but I find the ES gun to do a much better job of coating the bullet more evenly.

I coated a number of different size and caliber bullets a few weeks ago for testing in various way in both plain base and gas check version with the gas check to be left off in some test.  Weather and daylight hours after work is putting a hamper on testing time.

I have previously coated and shot the OD Green 158 gr. SWC bullets in my 357 mags. with excellent results.  There was no difference in accuracy and cleanup was much easier and fairly quick with nothing other than slight powder residue left in the bore.

When I get the chance I plan to do some shoot test in my Us and Russian 30 cal. rifles with various load even up to or near jacketed levels.


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Re: Powder Coating Cast Bullets
« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2014, 01:08:17 AM »
Tumbling has worked for me. I make sure the bullets are clean, warm them a little, and stuff the container with bullets/powder in a HF tumbler drum (wedged in with a rag), and tumble for 10-15 minutes, then cook...

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Re: Powder Coating Cast Bullets
« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2014, 05:10:43 AM »
I like what your doing, what is the powder, paint or what, where do you buy it....JimP.

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Re: Powder Coating Cast Bullets
« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2014, 01:29:39 AM »
So far, my experience with powder coating is that it's cleaner, easier, and faster than pan lubing and much less messy than tumble lubing. I started with a 2 oz. bag of red powder from a feller on ebay (can't remember his name, but search "powder coating" on ebay and he'll pop up). I have ordered 2, 1 lb. jars of powder coating from Harbor Freight at about $5.00 each, and waiting their delivery. Powder by the Pound is another powder coating equipment supplier https://www.powderbuythepound.com/ .

Powder coating may just "solve a problem that doesn't exist", but it's easy, and works. My wax based bullet lubes ain't going anywhere, PC is just another tool. My daddy always said "a stupid idea that works, ain't stupid". I'll bet some also said smokeless powder just solves a problem that don't exist too...

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Re: Powder Coating Cast Bullets
« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2014, 01:30:49 AM »
To para-phase  two quotes;
1. From the "Dirty Dozen" General, they sure do look preddy, BUT can they fight ?
2. Only ACCURATE cast bullets are interesting


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Re: Powder Coating Cast Bullets
« Reply #14 on: February 27, 2014, 04:08:55 AM »
To para-phase  two quotes;
1. From the "Dirty Dozen" General, they sure do look preddy, BUT can they fight ?
2. Only ACCURATE cast bullets are interesting

See fer yerself; extensive thread on PC bullet accuracy...http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?220557-Real-Accuracy-(2-moa-or-less)-with-Coated-Rifle-Bullets-at-1800-fps-or-greater/page4

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Re: Powder Coating Cast Bullets
« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2014, 10:52:23 AM »
Saw the thread and have been looking for info across the net.



This is the best that I have found,

http://www.300blktalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=141&t=84219


Check it out and post your thoughts.
Seems easy enough...  ( Yea, I've said that before..... )




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Re: Powder Coating Cast Bullets
« Reply #16 on: November 09, 2019, 04:27:42 AM »
man I had to chuckle at LLoyd in this one!! I haven't lubesized a bullet in 2 years. I pc EVERYTHING now. Probably the greatest cast bullet advancement ever.
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Re: Powder Coating Cast Bullets
« Reply #17 on: November 09, 2019, 09:22:57 PM »
man I had to chuckle at LLoyd in this one!! I haven't lubesized a bullet in 2 years. I pc EVERYTHING now. Probably the greatest cast bullet advancement ever.




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Re: Powder Coating Cast Bullets
« Reply #18 on: November 10, 2019, 12:38:34 AM »
yup I never thought in a million years you could pry me away from the old school. It was lubsized keith bullets for me. Don't lubesize and shoot more lfns then keiths anymore. Still side with Elmer in his love for 44mags though. Best handgun round EVER and ive owned and shot about all of them. Still have a few thousand lube sized 421429s on the shelf. Some day im going to have to shoot those dirty things ::)
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Re: Powder Coating Cast Bullets
« Reply #19 on: July 20, 2020, 11:10:15 PM »
I haven't gotten set up to do this myself but Dinny PC'ed a few handfulls of bullets for my .300 Blackout and I'm sold.  It's one more project I need to get going on....

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Re: Powder Coating Cast Bullets
« Reply #20 on: July 21, 2020, 10:30:25 PM »
you wont regret it. Best thing that happened to reloading since dillion.
I haven't gotten set up to do this myself but Dinny PC'ed a few handfulls of bullets for my .300 Blackout and I'm sold.  It's one more project I need to get going on....

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Re: Powder Coating Cast Bullets
« Reply #21 on: July 24, 2020, 11:26:57 PM »
I tend to agree.  From shooting the PC'd bullets I have, it has caused me to completely loose interest in gas checks...

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