Author Topic: Which factory ammo ???  (Read 6232 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline krod47nw

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (250)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1133
  • Gender: Male
Which factory ammo ???
« on: June 03, 2009, 05:52:33 AM »
While checking the ammo rack at my local Walmart the other day I got to wondering.  Why not compile a list of the factory ammo the seems to shoot best in most handis?  I know all are different to an extent, but there are some factory rounds that seem to stand out.  For example the Win white box 223s.  Let me know what you guys have found shoots the best in most handis of a particular chambering.  Let me know on any and all chamberings.

Kevin 
The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.  Thomas Jefferson

Offline Default

  • Classified -- Banned
  • Trade Count: (13)
  • A Real Regular
  • *
  • Posts: 766
  • Gender: Male
Re: Which factory ammo ???
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2009, 06:05:17 AM »
I'll help ya on this one ,

 223 22" 1 in 9 twist bull barrel loved the Hornady 75 gr TAP.

 243 20" ultra light youth rifle likes the Federal cheapy blue grey box 100 gr and the Winchester power point 100 gr offerings.

 44 mag  22"  (marlin barrel) likes the Winchester whitebox 240gr jsp very well , but in all fairness i reload for it so the WWB is the only factory ammo i have tried in it.

 357 mag 22" ejector seem to do pretty good with Rem. 158 and 140 , as well as Winchester 158 .. Got rid of it before i got the chance to try Hornadys LE ammo in it.

     Default
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn’t pass it on to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children what it was once like in the United States when men were free." ~Ronald Reagan

THE QUICKEST WAY TO ENSLAVE A PEOPLE IS TO DISARM THEM ~ George Mason

Offline krod47nw

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (250)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1133
  • Gender: Male
Re: Which factory ammo ???
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2009, 06:41:53 AM »
that's what I'm looking for.  Please keep them coming.

Kevin
The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.  Thomas Jefferson

Offline Sourdough

  • Trade Count: (1)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8150
  • Gender: Male
Re: Which factory ammo ???
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2009, 08:00:36 AM »
My .223 Ultra likes ULTRAMAX remanufactured ammo, with 55gr Nosler Ballistic Tips.  That is the only factory ammo I buy.  Everything else I reload for the Handi's. 
Where is old Joe when we really need him?  Alaska Independence    Calling Illegal Immigrants "Undocumented Aliens" is like calling Drug Dealers "Unlicensed Pharmacists"
What Is A Veteran?
A 'Veteran' -- whether active duty, discharged, retired, or reserve -- is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America,' for an amount of 'up to, and including his life.' That is honor, and there are way too many people in this country today who no longer understand that fact.

Offline myarmor

  • Trade Count: (46)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3239
  • Gender: Male
Re: Which factory ammo ???
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2009, 08:56:49 AM »
I will second the 223 WWB 45gr JHP, my 1-12 twist loves them.
The 100gr Federal Power Shocks shot well in most 243 Handi's I have had, and I have had a few over the years.
The 2 44Mags I have owned I haven't shot much factory stuff, but the Magtech 200gr SCHP's were awesome.
I have owned 2  30-06's and several 270 Handi's both loved Federal Fusions.
There is just a few of the Handi's I have owned the most of and factory ammo they loved.



-Aaron

Offline quickdtoo

  • Global Moderator
  • Trade Count: (149)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 43295
  • Gender: Male
Re: Which factory ammo ???
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2009, 09:56:28 AM »
+3 on the WWB 45gr JHP in the .223.

100gr Federal Power-Shoks and 95gr Fusion in the .243

Federal 115gr Nosler Partition and 117gr Hornady BTSP both shoot well in the 25-06.

325gr Hornady LE ammo and 300gr Win silver box in the 45-70. The discontinued PMC Silver +P 350gr shoot well to if you can find it.

I'll add more if I can remember them, it's been a long time since I shot factory ammo.

Tim




 
"Always do right, this will gratify some and astonish the rest" -  Mark Twain

Offline mcwoodduck

  • Trade Count: (11)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7983
  • Gender: Male
Re: Which factory ammo ???
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2009, 10:07:43 AM »
My 22 mag likes the Remington 33 grain Ballistic tip.
It will shoot all of the 30-35 grain stuff well but likes the Win best of all and does not like the 40-50 grain stuff as much.

Offline Swampman

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (44)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 16518
  • Gender: Male
Re: Which factory ammo ???
« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2009, 11:21:19 AM »
All my .45-70 Handis shoot the Remington 405 grain factory load really well.
"Brother, you say there is but one way to worship and serve the Great Spirit. If there is but one religion, why do you white people differ so much about it? Why not all agreed, as you can all read the Book?" Sogoyewapha, "Red Jacket" - Senaca

1st Special Operations Wing 1975-1983
919th Special Operations Wing  1983-1985 1993-1994

"Manus haec inimica tyrannis / Ense petit placidam sub libertate quietem" ~Algernon Sidney~

Offline jenkst

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 65
Re: Which factory ammo ???
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2009, 02:03:20 PM »
I believe Quickdtoo gave me this one about last october for a 7mm08. Remington 140 gr. Expresss core-lokt psp. Shoots good in my handi.

Offline mcwoodduck

  • Trade Count: (11)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7983
  • Gender: Male
Re: Which factory ammo ???
« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2009, 06:06:23 AM »
On another site (Bolt action Rifle) I asked a question about why when I changed scopes did my rifle change the ammo it liked to shoot?
and the answer was that the weight of the scope effected the harmonics of the barrel.
Do the handi rifle have the same effect?
Has anyone had a rifle with open sights then added a scope, then changed the scope to something bigger and heavier? That has changed the bullet weight the rifle likes?

Offline petemi

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (73)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7386
  • Gender: Male
Re: Which factory ammo ???
« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2009, 06:41:59 AM »
Where to start.  My .308 Ruger enjoys 168 gr. Winchester ballistic tips.  My Handis happily devour Hornady LE .45-70s, MagTech .38 LRN, American Eagle .357 158 gr. SJSP,  357 Max, 180 gr. SJHP Precision Cartridge., .30-30 Winchester 150 & 170 gr. silvertips, Federal 180 gr. .30-06, 140 gr 7mm-08 Rem Cor-lokt  There's more, but I can't remember all of em. 

Pete
Keep both eyes open and make the first shot good.
The growing Handi/Sportster/Pardner/Topper Family:  .22 WMR, .22-250. 223, Two Superlight 7mm-08s and one .243, .30-30,  .308, 32-20, 18 inch .356/.358 Win., Two 16.5 inch .357 Max., 18 inch 38-55 BC Carbine, 16.5 inch .445 Super Mag., .45LC, 16.5 and 22 inch .45-70s, .50 Huntsman SS, .410, 20 ga., 12 ga., 20 ga. Pardner Pump, Versa-Pack .410 - .22
[size=7.4 pt]PLEASE DONATE TO THE GBO SERVER FUND  We're closer to the goal but not there yet, we can still use more donations, thanks

http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,191112.msg1098959491.html#msg1098959491

Offline PHATINJUN

  • "Seeker of the Red Mist"
  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (144)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4076
  • Gender: Male
Re: Which factory ammo ???
« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2009, 08:29:28 AM »
I didn't even read your post just the topic and my answer is any factory ammo you can find ;D Kurt
Sportster17M2,20"Nickle410Tamer,26"410,
WTUTI12ga,WTU25-06,M158 22RemJet, 24"Ultra.204Ruger24"UltraFluted.204Ruger
M157Mannliker.22Hornet,24".223UltraFluted,   24".223Ultra,7X64BrenekkeUltra,22-250AIUltraFluted            7.62x39,22"303Britstub.32H&Rmag, .32303BritstubHuntsman,24" SS.50calHuntsman 58calHuntsman 12gaHuntsman
NEF RevolversSSModel73.32H&Rmag                     Blued Model73.32H&R mag The herd is shrinking!!
                                 "SOLI DEO GLORIA"

Offline spikehorn

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (84)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3000
  • Gender: Male
Re: Which factory ammo ???
« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2009, 01:41:49 PM »
my 44mag loves the winchester white box 240 gr. Have only put 30 rounds though the 7mm-08 so haven't found the magic factory load yet, but sounds like i should try the remington core lokts from the above posts. the superlight 223 i had bought for my son wouldn't shoot minute of broad side of barn with anything i put in it, that gun went away!
308 win                 45-70                       12ga         
30-30                    223 stainless steel   20ga TDC
44 mag                  Tracker II 20ga        20ga
45-70 Manlicher     20ga USH                28ga
                                                              410ga

Offline Westbound

  • Trade Count: (1)
  • Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 307
  • Gender: Male
Re: Which factory ammo ???
« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2009, 10:30:38 AM »
My Buffalo Classic liked the 405 gr Remingtons.

I havn't even put a round through the 270, but I'll let you know if it likes any factory ammo after the range trip this weekend.

Offline LONGTOM

  • Trade Count: (391)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4644
  • Gender: Male
  • IF ONLY I COULD GO BACK-I WOULD BE A MOUNTAIN MAN!
Re: Which factory ammo ???
« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2009, 11:27:29 AM »
So far I have been able to find factory ammo that all of my Handys seem to like.

17HMR likes Hornaday 17gr Varmint Express.

17 Mach2 likes Hornaday 17gr Varmint Express.

204s like Hornaday 32gr VMAX and Hornaday Custom 45gr SPs.

22 Mag likes CCi Maxi-Mag with Speer TNT HPs.

22 Hornet likes Win 46gr HPs in the silver box.

22-250 likes Rem UMC 45gr JHPs in the yellow 40 round box.

223s like the ULTRAMAX reman with 52gr Sierra BTHPs.

The 225 Win has only one factory load and do pretty good.
I will reload for this one.

243 likes the old 100gr WIN POWER POINT PLUS. (discontinued)

25-06 haven't worked with it yet.

270 likes the old 130gr WIN POWER POINT PLUS. (discontinued)

280s haven't worked with them yet.

7mm-08 likes Rem 140gr Core-Lokts.

7x64 Brenneke likes Federal 160gr Nosler Partitions.

7x57mm likes Rem 140gr Core-Lokts.

30-30 likes Win 150gr POWER POINTs and Win 125gr HPs.

30-06 haven't worked with it yet.

308 haven't worked with it yet.

35 Whelen likes Rem 200gr Core-Lokts but I don't, to many FTFs, will reload for this one.

38-55 haven't worked with it yet.

357 Max likes Rem 180gr SPs.

445 Supermag working on a reload.

444 Marlin likes Rem 265gr SPs.

45 Colt Hand Loads only, cast 255gr semi wad cutters

45-70s all like Win 300gr HPs.

450 Marlin test fired only.

500 S&W likes Magtech 350gr Jacketed SPs.


LONGTOM





NRA Benefactor Life Member
NAHC Life Member
NRA Member-JAMES MADISON BRIGADE
IWLA Member
NRA/ILA Member
CCRKBA Member
US OLIMPIC SHOOTING TEAM supporter

"THE TREE OF LIBERTY FROM TIME TO TIME MUST BE REFRESHED WITH THE BLOOD OF PATRIOTS AND TYRANTS".
THOMAS JEFFERSON

That my two young sons may never have to know the horrors of war. 

I will stand for your rights as my forefathers did before me!
My thanks to those who have, are and will stand for mine!
To those in the military, I salute you!

LONGTOM 9-25-07

Offline blind ear

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4156
  • Gender: Male
    • eddiegjr
Re: Which factory ammo ???
« Reply #15 on: June 05, 2009, 11:49:16 AM »
WWB 45 gr HP just about made me quit reloading 223. eddie
Oath Keepers: start local
-
“It is no coincidence that the century of total war coincided with the century of central banking.” – Ron Paul, End the Fed
-
An economic crash like the one of the 1920s is the only thing that will get the US off of the road to Socialism that we are on and give our children a chance at a future with freedom and possibility of economic success.
-
everyone hears but very few see. (I can't see either, I'm not on the corporate board making rules that sound exactly the opposite of what they mean, plus loopholes) ear
"I have seen the enemy and I think it's us." POGO
St Judes Childrens Research Hospital

Offline krod47nw

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (250)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1133
  • Gender: Male
Re: Which factory ammo ???
« Reply #16 on: June 05, 2009, 02:47:36 PM »
I see some patterns developing here:

the 7mm-08 140gr core-lokts seem to be coming up alot.

the WWB 45gr JHP and ultramax reman have both been mentioned for the 223.  Does the 1 in 12 prefer the WWB, and the 1 in 9 like the ultramax?

the rem 405gr  for the 45-70  followed by the Hornady LE.

100gr federal power-shoks in the 243

What else have you guys got? 

I'm interested myself in hearing about the 280, 25-06 and hornet.   
The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.  Thomas Jefferson

Offline donia

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 12
Re: Which factory ammo ???
« Reply #17 on: June 05, 2009, 03:00:38 PM »
my 270 likes Hornady 140gr btsp - tried the light mag, but the frontiers are better in mine
my 444 is a hole cutter with Hornady LeverEvolutions

Offline krod47nw

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (250)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1133
  • Gender: Male
Re: Which factory ammo ???
« Reply #18 on: June 08, 2009, 03:25:43 PM »
What else you guys have?

Kevin
The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.  Thomas Jefferson

Offline krod47nw

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (250)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1133
  • Gender: Male
Re: Which factory ammo ???
« Reply #19 on: June 10, 2009, 01:46:48 PM »
Anybody have any experience with factory ammo in the 280, 25-06, or 22 hornet.   It seems the 140gr rem core-lokt is working well in the 7mm-08, and 7x57.  Anybody had similar success in the 280?
The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.  Thomas Jefferson

Offline Buckman

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 55
  • Gender: Male
Re: Which factory ammo ???
« Reply #20 on: July 01, 2009, 10:27:43 AM »
 My 30 06 loves loves the Winchester 180 pp's

Offline dpe.ahoy

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (7)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3363
  • Gender: Male
Re: Which factory ammo ???
« Reply #21 on: July 01, 2009, 12:41:08 PM »
LongTom, ya have the same problem I have, to many toys, not enough time. ;D  I reload for all my guns, did have good luck with any of the Fed. Fusions that I tried, 243, 7mm-08 and 280.  My 280 also liked the Win Silvertip 140gr.  Can't find any of the WW 223 rounds at the Wally-Worlds in this area, have 3 store in a 20 mile radius. :P  DP
RIP Oct 27, 2017

Handi's:22Shot, 22LR, 2-22Mag, 22Hornet, 5-223, 2-357Max, 44 mag, 2-45LC, 7-30 Waters, 7mm-08, 280, 25-06, 30-30, 30-30AI, 444Marlin, 45-70, AND 2-38-55s, 158 Topper 22 Hornet/20ga. combo;  Levers-Marlins:Two 357's, 44 mag, 4-30-30s, RC-Glenfields 36G-30A & XLR, 3-35 Rem, M-375, 2-444P's, 444SS, 308 MX, 338Marlin MXLR, 38-55 CB, 45-70 GS, XS7 22-250 and 7mm08;  BLR's:7mm08, 358Win;  Rossi: 3-357mag, 44mag, 2-454 Casull; Winchesters: 7-30 Waters, 45Colt Trapper; Bolt actions, too many;  22's, way too many.  Who says it's an addiction?

Offline briannmilewis

  • Trade Count: (11)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1017
  • Gender: Male
Re: Which factory ammo ???
« Reply #22 on: July 17, 2009, 02:31:50 AM »
22 Hornet - Winchester 46gr HP

Offline Jimbo47

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (25)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1304
  • Gender: Male
Re: Which factory ammo ???
« Reply #23 on: July 17, 2009, 03:09:16 AM »
My 7mm-08 shot Winchester Super X Power Points  better than the Core- Lokts.

My 45-70 liked Winchesters also in the Super X jacketed hollow point 300 grain.

223 liked the 52 grain Ultramax.

270 likes the 130 grain Winchester Super X power points.
Do we see a trend here?

Using my .357 Mag, I like to use the Hornady 140 grain leverlution, but it likes anything I put through it.

Just picked up a 12 ga. Tracker ll barrel and I've already got a couple of boxes of...You guessed it, Winchester Super X BRI sabot slugs to try out when it gets here!
My culled down Handi's are the 45-70, and then I have a few others to keep it company...357 Mag/Max. .45 LC/.454 Casull Carbine, .243 Ultra, and 20 gauge Tracker II.

Offline jw1044

  • Trade Count: (7)
  • Avid Poster
  • **
  • Posts: 124
  • Gender: Male
Re: Which factory ammo ???
« Reply #24 on: July 17, 2009, 10:42:21 AM »
My 280 shoots under 3/4" with Federal Fusion 140 grn.

Offline Jimbo47

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (25)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1304
  • Gender: Male
Re: Which factory ammo ???
« Reply #25 on: July 17, 2009, 11:26:57 AM »
I had good luck with the Federal Fusion when I had my .243, and it was about the only brand that shot consistently good groups in my rifle.
My culled down Handi's are the 45-70, and then I have a few others to keep it company...357 Mag/Max. .45 LC/.454 Casull Carbine, .243 Ultra, and 20 gauge Tracker II.

Offline Mac11700

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (34)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6875
Re: Which factory ammo ???
« Reply #26 on: December 14, 2009, 11:01:19 AM »
In my Handi's..These shoot good..all capable of M.O.A. groups or better

Winchester Supreme line

Ballistic Silver Tips..
243 95grain
25-06 115grain
270 130grain
30-06 168grain

Winchester Supreme
Accubonds
25-06 110grain
270 140grain
30-06 180grain

Winchester Supreme
Partitions
45-70 300grain

Winchester Power Points
243 100grain
270 130-150 grain
308 150 grain

Federal

Federal Power Shok
243 100grain softpoint
Federal Vital Shok  
243 100 grain Partition
Federal Fusion
243 95grain

Federal Power Shok
25-06 115grain Speer Hotcore
Federal Vital Shok
25-06 Nosler 115grain Partiton

Federal PowerShok
270 130grain Softpoint

Federal Vital Shok
270 130grain Partiton
270 130grain Accubond
270 130grain Trophy Bonded Tip
270 140grain Accubond

Federal Fusion
270 130grain
270 150grain

Federal Vital Shok
280 140grain Throphy Bonded Tip

Federal Gold Match
308 168grain

Federal Fusion
30-06 150grain

Speer Nitrex
270 130 Grand Slam
280 140grain Grand Slam

Hornady Interlock
25-06 117grain
270 100grain

Hornady SST
270 130grain
270 140grain

Remington

Core-locs
280 140grain

Sirroco

30-06 150grain



I've found that that any factory loading of Noslers Accubonds/Ballistic Tips/Partitons..shoot almost the same so most sight settings can remain constant between them..

I've also found that if you are going to use any of the coated Winchester Silver Ballistic Tips..that you must
1)..Shoot from a squeeky clean barrel to start and completely coat the bore with atleast 1 box before trying to measure accuracy..
2)..Never shoot anything else when shooting these..because accuracy will go out the window very quickly
3)..Be prepared to spend many hours of cleaning after shooting these if you want anything else to shoot properly..Just shooting 1 box of these is enough to coat your barrel and if you shoot any normal copper bullets on top of it it will be foulded exteamly bad..However...these loadings have been exceedling accurate and I have had great luck in the field with them..

Will add more when I can unbox the rest of my notes..

Mac




You can cry me a river... but...build me a bridge and then get over it...

Offline mrgd

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Avid Poster
  • **
  • Posts: 114
    • Red River Ammo Company  Edmond, OK
Re: Which factory ammo ???
« Reply #27 on: December 14, 2009, 03:41:13 PM »
This is a helpful thread for us non-reloaders.  Thanks to all contributors and the thread starter.

Offline beadlescomb

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 86
Re: Which factory ammo ???
« Reply #28 on: December 14, 2009, 03:52:42 PM »
it may just be me but i expierenced a problem with my encore pro hunter with a fluted bull barrel in 7mm mag it shot patterns not groups with almost every factory round i tried federal fusion winchester ballistic silver tip hornady etc so i finally got desperate and bought a box of corelokts and low and behold 1inch groups at 100 yards so now when i buy a new rifle i start with the remington federal or winchester cheapest ammo with in reason i can get just to see what it will do

Offline dave29

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (93)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1256
Re: Which factory ammo ???
« Reply #29 on: October 31, 2010, 12:08:07 PM »
For factory ammo........

.22-250 likes the 45 gr JHP WWB varmint stuff that comes 40 to a box.

.44 mag likes the 240 grain JSP WWB and the 225 grain Hornady LeverEvolution.

.270 likes the Remington 130gr Core-Lokt

Everything else I just reload for.