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Forend screw torque
« on: January 07, 2008, 01:26:49 PM »
I am assuming that for each rifle the forend screw torque is somewhat individual for the best accuracy, lightly snug to very snug, etc. But is there some range of torque involved? I don't have the torqueing screwdriver yet so I am just estimating anyway in taking the barrel off for cleaning and setting it up again. Just wondered what you all do if you don't have that FAT screwdriver? Thanks.
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Re: Forend screw torque
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2008, 01:38:01 PM »
I have my torque screwdrivers set at 24 in/lbs, seems to be a good setting, I have the FAT wrench and 2 Ulticas, all set the same, works for ring and base screws too!! ;D

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Re: Forend screw torque
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2008, 03:27:40 AM »
I think as long as you are not real tight or loose consistency is more important than the actual torque.

I use my cordless drill on it's LOWEST torque setting. It tightens them snug and the same every time.
POA on both my Handis has been very consistent since I started doing that.

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Re: Forend screw torque
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2008, 03:30:44 AM »
Thanks PM I should have thought of that option, I knew consistency was the key and yet didn't want to buy the torque screwdriver right now, so your option should do it.

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Re: Forend screw torque
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2008, 08:19:52 AM »
That's a good idea for sure Partsman. I've got a little Hitachi cordless screwdriver with torque setting that will be just the thing.

I have been trying to feel for a bottoming out and checking to see that there is no looseness. The cordless should be better.

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Re: Forend screw torque
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2008, 12:25:24 PM »
Hi folks , I'm new to Handi rifles . Do yall think any brand of cordless drill will work on the lowest setting ?

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Re: Forend screw torque
« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2008, 01:00:50 PM »
If it has an adjustable torque control, sure. Same goes for a cordless screwdriver. ;) This isn't the same as speed control, so don't be confused by that. Those with the torque control will only tighten a screw so tight, then a clutch device just slips inside the tool and it doesn't tighten any more, they usually have numbered settings like from 1 to 32 on the Craftsman tool below.

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Re: Forend screw torque
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2008, 02:43:39 PM »
My Makita has adjustable torque control. Thanks for the tip , I'll try it out.

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Re: Forend screw torque
« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2008, 02:45:13 PM »
Sorry, welcome aboard Jonboy!! ;)

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Re: Forend screw torque
« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2008, 05:43:25 PM »
Jonboy welcome to the GBO forum! There are a lot of good people here, very knowledgeable about Handis and all kinds of firearm and hunting info. Have fun browsing the site and ask questions!

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Re: Forend screw torque
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2008, 01:36:50 AM »
Thanks Tim and Joe. GBO has the best info on Handi's on the web. I've already learned alot just browsing the forums here.  ;D

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Re: Forend screw torque
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2008, 07:02:28 AM »
Just ordered one now using Tim's link.Thanks Tim!!!!!

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Re: Forend screw torque
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2008, 07:13:01 AM »
Mc, you're welcome, but did ya order a torque screwdriver or a new drill driver?

Tools are just like guns, you can never have too many!! :D

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Re: Forend screw torque
« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2008, 07:15:02 AM »
I ordered the screw driver version $40.00. Does it work?

Mc

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Re: Forend screw torque
« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2008, 07:15:59 AM »
 Could one not pillar and glass bed the whole forend and then shim the endcap achieve better results. I've been thinking about doing it to mine. looks like there would be a lot more consistency which should lead to repeatable accuracy.

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Re: Forend screw torque
« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2008, 07:29:58 AM »
I tried pillar bedding alone and it didn't help accuracy. I have yet to also glass bed it. I think FredM's method is the tried-and-true method of choice for accuracy.

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Re: Forend screw torque
« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2008, 07:41:39 AM »
Could one not pillar and glass bed the whole forend and then shim the endcap achieve better results. I've been thinking about doing it to mine. looks like there would be a lot more consistency which should lead to repeatable accuracy.

Full bedding is probably the ultimate best solution, see the FAQs on accurizing, or pick up ML McPherson's book "Accurizing the Factory Rifle", it has 7 or 8 pages just on the Handi.

I ordered the screw driver version $40.00. Does it work?

Mc

Yup, works great, also works great on ring and base screws with a different tip, Burris' recommended ring screw torque just happens to be 24 in/lbs also, so that's what I keep all of mine set to, the KISS philosophy, ya know!! ;D

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