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Range Report 26" 35 Whelen and 22" vs 32" .45-70
« on: November 01, 2006, 01:52:50 PM »
Needed something to shoot while the .280II barrel was cooling, so I shot the RMEF .35 Whelen Ultra, .45-70 Handi and scoped .45-70 BC in the mean time.

Shot the 225gr TSX with 57-61.5gr of RL15, the same load as MattParliament was shooting in his 22" Whelen, never really found an accurate load, 1˝" was the best I got, but I also never got any pressure signs even at 2895fps, so I'll load up some more continuing on up in ˝gr increments to see where it goes. Also may have to adjust COL, these loads were the recommended .050" off the lands.

Also shot several loads in the 22" and 32" .45-70 barrels for comparisons, the highlight of that was the 350gr Hornady RN at 2027fps w/52.5gr of H322 with a nice ˝" 3-shot cloverleaf in the 32" BC barrel. The next step up at 53gr chrono'd 1850fps in the 22" Handi barrel.

Another comparison was 45gr of IMR4198 and the 350gr Speer FP @ 1932fps for the 22" and 2082fps for 45.5gr in the 32".

Tim


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Re: Range Report 26" 35 Whelen and 22" vs 32" .45-70
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2006, 02:26:36 PM »
Gee's Tim, I thought something was causing the world to tilt. You were away from the board!!! Just kidding. you are "the source" here though.
Thanks for the 45/70 info. I'll have to try some of your loads.
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Re: Range Report 26" 35 Whelen and 22" vs 32" .45-70
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2006, 02:47:40 PM »
Being retired I get to spend a lot of time here, and being a GBO Junkie as Matt calls me, I do enjoy it. But I've been away a couple days a week since deer season opened, but not all day, just the mornings and early afternoons, need my daily GBO fix!!!! :D The regular season is over now, yesterday was it, all that's left now is late buck for 4 days in the middle of November during the rut, hopefully one of us will have a "convergence" with a buck!! ;D

I'd been putting this range trip off too long, glad I waited tho, today was nice, no crowds, all of the sight-in crowds are gone, had the range all to myself practically, there were never more that 8 shooters on the big range all day, when I left at 3pm, I was the only one there just as it was when I got there at 11am!

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Tim
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Re: Range Report 26" 35 Whelen and 22" vs 32" .45-70
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2006, 03:40:59 PM »
I forgot another thing I learned to today, the .240" throating I did cost me about 100fps with the H4198/300gr Nosler partition load, was 2425fps before, now it's only  2330fps in the same 22" Handi barrel. It was a bit cooler today than the previous work, but H4198 is an Extreme powder, shouldn't shoot too much different from 75 degrees to 50 degrees.

Tim
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Re: Range Report 26" 35 Whelen and 22" vs 32" .45-70
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2006, 04:12:02 PM »
Tim, thats a great load you worked up there, and some very good shooting.
With encouragement like this, a 45-70 is looking better and better to fit in my gear.
Thanks for sharing.
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Re: Range Report 26" 35 Whelen and 22" vs 32" .45-70
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2006, 12:22:27 AM »
Nice shootin, Tim.

I NEEDS a 45-70 :D

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Re: Range Report 26" 35 Whelen and 22" vs 32" .45-70
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2006, 04:38:47 AM »
so now I have to get one of those 26" whelen barrels....  dang you quick...
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Re: Range Report 26" 35 Whelen and 22" vs 32" .45-70
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2006, 10:20:27 AM »
Sounds like a .25-06 Rebored to .35 Whelen would be the right choice, I just happen to have an extra one, haven't decide on what to do with it yet. A .338-06 Imp-Imp or .35 Whelen Imp-Imp, even a .375-06 Imp-Imp might be its future!! ;)

Tim
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Re: Range Report 26" 35 Whelen and 22" vs 32" .45-70
« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2006, 07:02:37 PM »


Darn nice shooting Tim...it just keeps getting better all the time...

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Re: Range Report 26" 35 Whelen and 22" vs 32" .45-70
« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2006, 12:14:46 PM »
so now I have to get one of those 26" whelen barrels....  dang you quick...

I'm thinking the same thing.Thats some fine shooting there quick.
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Re: Range Report 26" 35 Whelen and 22" vs 32" .45-70
« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2006, 12:18:56 PM »
Thanks, I'll be following up with another range report hopefully next Wednesday, but not for sure, the wife has to go in for surgery Tuesday, will have to wait and see how that goes.

Tim
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Re: Range Report 26" 35 Whelen and 22" vs 32" .45-70
« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2006, 12:29:00 PM »
Hope all goes well for her.
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Re: Range Report 26" 35 Whelen and 22" vs 32" .45-70
« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2006, 03:04:54 AM »
Tim did i get it right, did  that 350 grain hornady bullet with 45 of IMR4198  have a 15 fps per inch difference  when comparing the 22" and 32" barrels
If so thats not bad at all . and i also used to get an average of 1900 FPS with that same load in my 1895SS with a 22"